Sept. 12, 2025

How Do You Say Goodbye in Canadian?

Jann, Caitlin & Sarah cover a variety of topics including TIFF, Banksy, Spinal Tap 2 and the origin story behind Jann's famous sign off!

Jann, Caitlin and Sarah cover a variety of random topics this week including the Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF), touching on celebrity culture, and the buzz around new films. They explore the dynamics of celebrity sightings and the significance of standing ovations. They also discuss the intersection of art and activism with Banksy's latest work that critiques censorship. They also somehow find themselves talking about the cultural impact of Spinal Tap and a variety of sports, GO SPORTS! The conversation culminates in a nostalgic reflection on their sign-off phrase, 'toodlee-doo,' revealing its personal significance.

 

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0:00  
Hello. I'm Jann Arden, and welcome to the Jann Arden podcast. I am jet setting around. I just landed back in Reykjavik. I'm here with thornis. As you know, I have a Icelandic girlfriend. I know the show is very early for me to be saying that, but I was in London seeing my old friend Nigel and his partner Charlie of 27 years. And so now I've flown here two and a half hours, and I'm going to fly home on the 15th. But yeah, that's where I am. The girls are in their Toronto homes, respectively. Caitlin green, Sarah Burke, we have so many things to talk about. I'm going to start with Caitlin, and just checking in with what everybody's been doing, I know that TIFF is in the throes of it's it's going it's going strong. So tell us about your experiences and what you've been seeing there, and if you saw anyone having sex in the alleyways.

0:56  
No, I didn't, but TIFF is big this year, like in terms of the celebrities coming out, I don't know if this is because the movie industry is sort of struggling, and so the PR teams and the business side of things have told all of the major players, hey, you have to go to all these events. We need buyers for these films because they're out. So every main cast for all the films, they're here, they're walking the red carpets. They're doing interviews. The interviews start trending. The interviews go viral. I do have a slight gripe, and I don't know if the two of you share this, but a lot of times I feel that during the Toronto International Film Festival, the actors and the directors and everybody, they constantly get peppered with questions about like. So tell us what you love about Toronto. Tell us what your favorite Toronto restaurant is. Tell us about how much you like Canada. Tell Have you ever filmed here like it's very needy. And I just don't know that this happens at other film festival, red carpets, like, I just don't think that that sort of like cloying. Give me a quote about Toronto. It's very Canadian. It is. And I just, I don't, I think we're doing ourselves a disservice.

1:55  
Well, it is kind of like the boyfriend or the girlfriend that is constantly tell me why you love me. Tell me what you love about me. Do you like my legs? Baby? I think it's, um, I think it really is a Canadian thing to be desperate for any kind of accolades. So I get that, and it makes me a little cringy to tell you the truth. Yeah, yeah. And listen, when I'm in the states doing anything at all, the question that I am mostly asked is, is it true we all have pet wolves, and do y'all get TV up there? I mean, so it's a little different than what we're handing to them here. So anyway,

2:37  
I mean, I think everyone has their cliche, but I just, I think I understand it when it happens a little bit, but it is sort of the prevailing question that I see circulate so much on social media. And I think that part of tiff I would be nice, it would be nice to reduce a little bit of it. But the buzzy films are, you know, there's a new there's a version of Hamlet, and then there's another movie called ham net. The book is amazing. Did you read Hamnet? Yes. Did it destroy you emotionally? Yes, it did. Okay. So people are saying so this is with Paul mescal, and Dang it, I'm forgetting the name of this incredibly talented actress who I think is just such a rare talent, but she co stars with Paul mescal in Hamnet, and it is the story of the loss of their child, but there's a twist to it. Okay, I changed

3:24  
the narrative. You know what? I'm not telling anybody, because it'll totally wreck it, Sarah, it's the one book. Hamnet was my other choice.

3:32  
Well, you're talking about the new book, H is for Hawk. H is for Hawk

3:35  
and Hamnet were the two books that I was just like, Oh, which one is this going to

3:38  
be? Chat G B T, this might be a chat G B T, yeah, exactly. Who's stars in Oh, Jesse Buckley, there we go.

3:46  
Okay, so I am so perplexed on how they're gonna play this movie. Okay, so it's a period piece. So folks, we're going back to the 1500s and the Shakespeare family suffered a heartbreaking loss of one of their children. The book kind of twists things around a bit. It's kind of a what if this were to happen instead of that were to happen? That's all I'm going to say. Fascinating really gives you a glimpse into what happened to the family when Shakespeare was off doing his thing and writing and and being in London and putting on the plays. And you know, you often don't think of these people as real human people that had problems and and were trying to bring home money to their family. And of course, there was plenty. Was plagues. There was no end to the shit that could kill you 500 years ago. I mean, there's no end of the shit that can kill you now. It's now. People are just getting decapitated, standing up in a limousine going under an underpass. Like the deaths are slightly different. But anyway, you had it. You had a good time at TIFF I did.

4:40  
And this is a really buzzy film. I don't know if I'm gonna have the guts to see it, because I'm hearing it's like a full Kleenex box moment when you go. So I don't know, but I Yeah, it's getting a lot of awards buzz, as is Nuremberg. And another funny headline I find around a whole lot of these film festivals is that Nuremberg got a four minute standing ovation. I don't know. What your temperature check is on this I don't know how I feel about the headlines around standing ovations. I don't know that I really care how long a film gets a standing ovation for. Like, the fact that it's well received is noteworthy. But also, who wants to stand up for that long? Like clapping, like four minutes is a long time to stand up clapping. So I don't know. I find that always to be a little bit of like a head scratcher headline that comes out of every film festival,

5:21  
as per the meme, though, the people in the room watching the film are usually on the team for the film.

5:27  
Yeah, yes. Half

5:29  
the room is like people who worked on the film, which

5:31  
is another reason why. Like, sometimes they'll be like, Oh, this, this film received like, a 20 minute standing ovation at Cannes. And I'm like, that's a long time. That's a long time to stand there clapping, but okay, and then I went to an after party that Charlie X CX wound up being at. Oh, good heavens, you're fancy DJing. She wasn't DJing. She was just sort of like walking about, I feel like she sort of was, like shoved along the King Street run of things, and just wound up at this same nightclub. And yeah, like the but the feeling when a celebrity like that sort of walks into a venue is noteworthy. People all start whispering. Everyone starts looking around for them. And she, yeah, she wasn't really there doing like, press or anything. She was just, like, with a gaggle of friends and having fun. But it was cool. And also, celebrities are always smaller than you think. In person, she was, like, super teeny, tiny, and had, like, gorgeous skin.

6:16  
I've had you're not as fat as you look on TV. Oh my

6:19  
god, I'm not kidding you, that's such anti social behavior.

6:23  
This was years ago, but she didn't mean it maliciously. She thought she was giving me a compliment, I know, but you know what I mean? Like, when you say something like that, that she truly was so I could be mad and I wouldn't be mad anyways, like fuck, I don't care. And it was a compliment to her, to her, Jesus.

6:44  
What was the club scene like during tiff

6:46  
it is a weird combination, in my experience, of businessy and also party, because they try not to over pack a venue, because there are celebrities there. So there's more, like gaps in a venue. There's more areas where people, it's like a VIP area, where people want to sit, and then there's everyone who's kind of like, looking at the VIP area, I find they tend to like close things off early, so it's not a regular

7:09  
club vibe. So last thing I would be at an after party. I mean, I suppose they'd be really fun, but I think I would really dig seeing celebrities and people that I really admired. I'm not gonna lie, like I think it would be really exciting to it's fun see somebody come in. I mean, I'll never forget seeing Celine Dion for the first time, like in person. And it was way, way years ago. It would have been 93 so Celine wasn't even Celine yet. She wasn't the Vegas Celine. But there was a, there was a hush over the crowd at that point, like even, even her in back in those early days, it was just like, Oh, my God, there she is. Yeah, people ask me where the washroom is. So they see me, they think I work in the venue.

7:48  
That's not true. I've been with you when people notice who you are, and they get very excited about it, and I think that you have very like, friendly, approachableness to you. Like, do you remember when we were all at dinner and that person was, like, so excited, but they accidentally spilled a drink on you. And then everyone came over because they, like, everyone in the restaurant came over because they'd spilled a drink on your

8:07  
lap. Yeah, it was an expensive drink. I think a mocktail, at least, is like 1750 or something, yeah, and then

8:14  
you have Jann just being like, it's fine, and, like, carrying on with dinner, like she didn't just get a full lap full.

8:21  
I needed to cool my crotch down, okay, so that that drink came at the exact right time

8:26  
that was worth revisiting, but also on the club scene with Tiff James McAvoy, actor who you're probably familiar with. He was at an after party following one of the screenings of his films. He got punched in the head. What? Yeah, this was another headline that came out. The club was trying to expel someone who had been over served, and he wound up caught in the melee of getting this person out of there. And so he just caught a stray in the back of the head. So people who saw this happen, he was apparently very affable, and was like laughing about it later, but like it is, you know, there are regular members of the very drunk public who are all of a sudden around these major celebrities. So some of these stories do happen. Yeah, it's exciting to see a celebrity. I remember seeing tiff like a tiff movie years ago starring Ryan Gosling at the height of my crush on him like his hottest ever level. And just to see him, I had great seats. I was like three rows from the front, and he walks on stage to do a Q and A and just to see the person in real life on stage like That's why people pay to go see artists at you know when they do days when they have, obviously, concerts, all that stuff, because there is just something really cool about a talented person who you idolize, and in my case, are very attracted to being like in the same room as you. It's fun. I don't know

9:38  
there's something to it, for

9:40  
sure. There were lots of headlines about that John Candy film too, with the other Ryan, Ryan Reynolds being, I guess, a director, right?

9:47  
Yeah. So, yeah, producer,

9:49  
producer, producer. So Kyle went to go see that. He saw the premiere, okay? And he went, and Ryan Reynolds and Colin Hanks directed it, and Ryan Reynolds produced it, and he's just such a huge. Long time John Candy fan that it was really exciting for him to get it made. And he rolled up in like a beat up old Buick. He was wearing, like a brown suit, and this, this special collab Canada shirt. And he was great. He did a nice Q and A after Colin Hanks his insights into the film. And, like, I didn't know Colin Hanks was like, had met John Candy through his dad. There are all these really interesting connections, and that stuff is so, so, so exciting about Tiff and that that opened the film festival, and it was so Canadian,

10:27  
in a feel good moment to like, I mean, the film is called, I like me, and it's from that famous line, and it's like, just the content, I love me, yeah, the concept of just being good with yourself,

10:36  
planes, trains and automobiles. Love

10:38  
that. Yeah, he they loved it. They loved it. They said it was, you know, it was really touching. You really felt for John Candy. You realized how much like fat shaming he dealt with and that he wasn't he did like himself, but he was also very insecure in his body, and sort of the angst he had around losing his father at a young age, like there's a lot of stuff in there. So I'm super excited to see it.

10:58  
I've never been to tiff I really would like to go. I know that Cynthia Loyd always tells me about these great stories, and I see all kinds of really cool pictures of collaborations, like people that are like together to party, having a cocktail. I would so love to be a fly on the wall for that. Like Danny kind and Amanda brugel were there with, like, somebody else. And it's just nice to see Canadian kind of a star system, sort of burgeoning, kind of being there that you recognize these people and you know their names.

11:27  
It's funny that you mentioned Danny kind, because I'm the total opposite end of the glam spectrum. Danny. Danny kind and I ran into each other waiting in line at a after hours clinic with your kids. Yeah, we were both, well, she's like, she was there for herself, but I was there with will, and we're waiting for it to open, and we're standing in line, and will marches in. He had been walking through the grocery store. I'm standing there trying to hold first in line so we can get right in and and he walks in and is like, hi, Mama. And from behind me, this, like lovely voice laughed, and goes, Oh my gosh. Well, isn't he the mayor of Loblaws? Because that's what this after hours clinic is. And I turn around and it's Danny, and we both pointed at each other. She was like, I know you. And so then we had a great catch up, and she got to hang out with will while we waited for the clinic to open. And she's very lovely. And it was, it was the start of TIFF, and it was the least

12:18  
TIFF. That's real life. They're just like

12:21  
us, Yep, that's right.

12:30  
Okay, switching gears. One thing Sarah that you loved or made you feel good this week, maybe it was the Lumineers. I don't know.

12:37  
The Lumineers was a feel good for sure. I went with my friend that I went to Italy with, and we literally have not had a proper catch up since Italy. So I was like, oh, it's been a financial quarter. How are you like? What's happening here? But I would say I've been laughing my ass off going back and forth voice notes with someone who was my boss in my very early radio days. Her name was Amber, so I had like, two promo coordinator bosses when I was driving the summer cruiser around. Okay, now this is someone who met me when I was like, still in school. You know, there were things that happened, like the typical things when you're 20 years old, where it's like, you didn't wake up for the 5am street team call, you know, things like that. So I was just like, such a kid at that point anyway. So we have been going back and forth with all these hilarious memories and trouble that we got into and like, oh, remember the time that guy puked on the side of the bus and, like, just the funniest things. And it's such a nice reconnect. It's been when was the last time that I would have talked to her, like, 2012 i 12, so, like, quite some

13:44  
time. That's a chunk of time, and it was especially for you young people, yeah.

13:49  
And I mean, at the time too, like, you know she was, she was like a crazy partier. And although I was having my party days in university, like, I could not even keep up to this woman's level. And, yeah, so I like her already. I like her already. So, yeah, we've had a great reconnecting. It was Stevie like me posting about Stevie on Instagram that she like sent me a message, sent me a voice note. It was so, dude, I know you Yeah, just like saying I'm so proud of everything you've accomplished since, you know, we told you that your jean skirt was too short in promo, you know, like, it was nice, yeah, so that's my thing for this week,

14:26  
but it's nice finding an old friend. And I know Facebook has made things a lot easier in social media, it really is like finding a necklace that you've lost, you know, something like, like an earring. It's that feeling of there you are, and a lot of the times, people are just the same, that things haven't changed that much. That's what I find anyway. A true friend. You can skip a decade and get together with them in coffee, and you can almost pick up where you left off. It's like what happened to Roger or do you ever see them anymore? And you can find those connectors all over the place. And. I think that's just a great thing about human life, and one of the more positive things about the world wide web. Yeah, I'm glad you found are you guys going to stay in touch?

15:09  
Or she lives in Hamilton, so we'll probably try and do a fall hike, because she's near all the waterfalls and the great trails and everything. I also just want to say, if you're watching on YouTube, I'm not like wearing sunglasses because it's tiff I am wearing sunglasses because I can't see because of the sun directly beaming where my computer is.

15:26  
I don't think you have to say that. I think you've heard the level of your own celebrity that you can get.

15:30  
Never, I would never. Okay, you guys, what was your good thing this week? Yeah, Caitlin,

15:34  
go. My good thing this week. Probably, I'm really enjoying the Banksy like story that's been, I don't know why this has, like, tickled me amidst a lot of like, really terrible world news, but if you missed it, Banksy put up a new piece of artwork on the side of, like, the London building. I think it's like a courts building, and it is a picture of a judge in, like the traditional like Whig the UK wig with a hammer, and he's like, attacking a protester who's lying on the ground. And this is a direct commentary on, I think something like 600 plus people were arrested for a peaceful protest of what's going on in Gaza and the UK is involvement in Keir Starmer. And you know, his take on this. So they're out there protesting, and so they throw all these people in jail, and some of them are really quite old, and there's people in wheelchairs and like, they're clearly not disrupting anything, and they're doing it under this, like this, claiming that they're basically terrorists. This is, like, the story. So Banksy puts up this thing about censorship, this piece of artwork around censorship. And it's riveting. It's riveting.

16:42  
It's heavy, and there's blood on the wall, and, oh yeah, people are just standing there looking at it. And I love how he causes that thoughtful dialog. Caitlin, but go ahead,

16:51  
it's the purpose of street art, and it should be really the purpose of art. And so he's calling truth to power quite effectively. It's an obvious commentary on censorship, wouldn't you know it. They cover it up with these, like, big, giant pieces of steel scaffolding. And then people know it's there. They know the building, and they start pulling it back. So then they start pulling it back. And everyone's, there's videos of everyone like, taking away the scaffolding. So then they put back the scaffolding. Then they put two guys standing there looking like kind of, you know, lethargic bodyguards. And then those guys eventually leave. They remove the scaffolding, and then they try to cover it up. But now the attempt to cover it up has been not entirely effective. You can still see a shadowy piece of the art underneath it, and now that artistic moment is like more powerful. So they just keep adding to the art. And it's just a funny thing to see happen, and it's such an interesting like commentary and everything that's going on. And I really liked it. I don't know why that story. I just It kept layering. And sometimes these trending stories do that, and I've really enjoyed it.

17:51  
No, I was, I was so glad to see that piece, because I've been quite taken aback actually seeing the London Police drag really elderly people off. There was a woman. It's an Instagram clip. I've seen it a few times now, but she's going, I'm not well, I'm not well. Today in there, they've got her, Oh, you're pinching my arm. And she had this little sign that just said, Free Gaza. And, you know, God love her for getting in there and not sitting on our hands. I think complacency and apathy, there's no place for it. Now, like you, you have to get in there and speak your voice. It's the only way that we're going to change what's going on. But anyway, yeah, it was kind of hard to watch old people. There was a veteran from the Second World War that they hauled off and put in a van and and I'm like, Oh God, this is just, I think they're arresting the wrong people. I don't know.

18:44  
No kidding, if you think these people are like, Oh, this is your version of terrorists. This is your version of terrorism. And I do not doing anything. No, they're sitting there with signs, and I saw an incredible exchange on the BBC between an anchor and Jeremy Corbyn and the anchor kept saying, well, it's illegal. And he's like, yeah, it is illegal. That's why they're doing it. That's the nature of protest. That's the way it's always been. These things have been illegal, and that's why they're doing it, and that's why they're getting arrested and they're putting them themselves in harm's way. That's why it's powerful. So I just I really like, I really like Banksy for doing this. I hope, I kind of hope he never stops. I kind of always want to see him, like, pop up and do these types of things.

19:27  
Dumb question, do they know who Banksy is? And this is quite a busy place that this piece of artwork was was done. It was sort of at the bottom of this building. I don't know if it was a government building. That escapes me. Maybe Sarah could find out more, but he almost he does them in the dead of night, like they must be very prepared, and he must have a team right that helps him do this.

19:48  
So he's still anonymous, but there is a strong suspicion with his name and identity being connected to Robin gunning him a. A fellow from Bristol with schoolmate testimonies and signature evidence dating back. Oh, that's what I have just found. Other theories claim ties to Robert del Naja of massive attack, which would be so cool, that would be really cool Neil Buchanan, or that it might be a collective rather than an individual.

20:20  
For me, on the heels of art, Nigel took me to Buckingham Palace. So you, you get a time, you get a ticket. And there's quite a bit of it that has been opened up since the Queen has died. You don't get to see private chambers, like I wanted to see a shitter, like I would have liked to have seen. Where has William shat? Where did the Queen pee? And you've never been to this talk, where did, where did Prince Philip? Like, read dirty magazines? Like, I just, I want to know where this stuff happened, but what they had opened up was stuff that was hundreds of years old. It's just so gauche. It really is. They're just massive. It was all about power and intimidating people, and I suppose doing business and the economics of a country, but the money, it was all just done on the backs of really impoverished people. It's but then, having said that, the only way that we would be left with the art that we're left with, certainly in the United Kingdom, in Europe, it was all requisitioned and commissioned by the church, by monarchy, by rich landowners. You know, it wasn't these guys had to have the money to buy the paint, to get the canvas, to do all these things. I mean, there's these stories about Van Gogh that he painted over and over and over the painting, because he wanted to keep doing growing and doing other things. But anyway, there was a huge private art collection there, like there's hallways after hallways of sculptures, and you would need a year to go through there and actually look at paintings. You know what that's like in a museum, right? You just go from one to the other, and it all becomes overwhelming. Anyway, I saw an original Rembrandt, and it was one that I'm really familiar with. It's a Dutch ship maker and his wife, and it's really animated. I've seen pictures of this painting my whole life, but it was so great. To see it in person.

22:04  
It's like seeing a celeb. And

22:07  
there was people were, like, really bustling to try and get in front of it. It was the one piece of this massive gallery that people seem to be really interested in. And I just didn't looked at it for a while. I thought, How do this person do this. How do they do this? How do they the light and and then all the detail and everything, and thank God it's been preserved after all these hundreds of years that people had the wherewithal to go. This is important, and we need to anyway. That was my moment. And then we had tea. We had some kind of English sponge cake, raspberry, lemon, and we walked around the gardens. It's like 49 acres of the most beautiful, beautiful trees and oak trees and gardens. So that was my one good thing. I'm so interested in history. And Nigel doesn't claim to be like he I always think he begrudgingly takes me to this stuff, because he's like, Well, you can't just sit out here in Godalming and go to Dorset. Like, I want to show you stuff. But anyway, he always, we always have great conversations afterwards. And we were walking around with our headphones, because you get, thank God you're not with a tour guide. You actually get, it's quite contemporary and fancy and very AI at one point. They're like, rub the screen to see what the room looked like in 1924 so take your finger. It's interactive, and you're, you know, just kind of rubbing it back and forth like a mouse, and it reveals what the room looked like before it was renode. Oh, my God. So, you know, things like that have come a long way with with the tour industry, but it was really great. Took about 45 minutes to go through there.

23:46  
Did anyone mention this? The secret swimming pool?

23:49  
Yeah, we saw it. You know, we didn't see inside. We saw the building outside. Okay, blacked out. Okay. Those are blacked

23:55  
out. This is the thing I want. I want there to be, like, I want someone to somehow get drone footage, or whatever, of what this pool looks like, because frickin no one in the public has ever seen this thing. And so I want to know, is it run down? Is it opulent? Is it

24:07  
building was gorgeous, and really, all the windows were blacked out, so you couldn't see in, okay? But we saw a square where, you know, Kate and William went out on the balcony to wave to people and you but, but going inside and seeing some of those chambers, you know, where Queen Victoria sat with Albert and and took, you know, people in from and heard their problems and their queries and, like, back then, the government was kind of interactive. If you put your name on a list, and you were a farmer that was fighting over a landline with another farmer. You know, if you waited long enough and were patient enough, you could very well end up being in front of Queen Victoria and saying, This bloody guy is, you know, he's his sheep are on my land.

24:52  
And they just like Dan, but in the old times,

24:55  
they just make a unilateral decision and fix it. But I love seeing it. I. Think my favorite is still Hampton or Osborne house on the Isle of Wight. But Nigel said, next time you're here, I'm going to take you to Hampton Court. That's where Henry the Eighth killed everyone. Fantastic. Let's go see where the heads rolled. Oh my

25:16  
gosh, when you talk like that, it's making me think of spinal tap. Does it go to 11? Why don't

25:23  
we just have it go to 10? It's very, very special, because if you can see, yeah, the numbers all go to 11. Look right across the board, 1111, mostly 11 amps go up to 10. Exactly what we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff. You know, we do put it up to 11 exactly

25:45  
one last. Why don't you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number and make that a little louder. These go to 11.

25:53  
But no, no, no, it goes louder than 10. It's 11. Spinal Tap. Two is coming out. It's 40 years old, the original Spinal Tap. There's a lot of our listeners right now that have no idea what we're talking about. Go rent it. Go rent it. Where you rent your movies. Watch Spinal Tap. It is the funniest, hilarious farce about rock and roll and touring that was ever, ever, ever made 1984 and it's very true. Paul Shaffer is in it. There's all kinds of cameos of people, but they're same cast 40 years later. Imagine these guys are now in their 70s. Gosh, they're going on tour again.

26:26  
This was directed by Christopher Guest, yeah. Okay, yeah. So he's married to Jamie Lee Curtis, and he had a ton of my other favorite movies.

26:32  
Okay, it's in theaters now. I'm so excited. Sarah, oh my gosh, maybe, wait guys, maybe we can watch this together next. This can be your good thing this week.

26:42  
I'm really excited about it, and I'm going to do a re watch you better bet your bottom dollar. Maybe when you guys come for our live event. That is September the 19th, there are a few tickets left. We are selling them, folks, they're selling and we're definitely going to sell this event out. But come and see us do a live podcast. We've got some special guests.

27:02  
I think we've got a link. We can actually, if you want, we can announce but Okay, keep it in the bag. We can. It's totally up to you, Boss, what do you

27:09  
want? Well, Nancy is going to join us. Nahid Nanci, yeah. And ahead, Nenshi, and it's going to be a great conversation. We're just going to talk to him about the lunacy that's going on in Alberta right now. And and he can certainly paint a much more positive picture than I can about my province. So I think that'll be actually really inspiring. I don't think it's going to be a Wah wah wah. I think it's going to actually lift our spirits and say, yeah, there's lots of hope, and there's things that people can do, anywho come and see us. But when you're there, Caitlyn and Sarah, maybe the thing is the movie room, spinal tap the first one.

27:43  
Have you watched the Caitlyn, well, I've watched pieces of it. I don't know that. I feel like it's a whole experience.

27:49  
I will make you popcorn. We will sit maybe I should give you alcohol. Maybe it's time for Jann to get her blender out and to blitz you up. You know some pina coladas. Do you like are the kids still drinking Piya coladas? I love a frozen drink. Okay, well, Consider it done great. By the way,

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there's like, 50 tickets left, so that's your warning that if you haven't got tickets yet, and you're in Alberta especially, and

28:12  
it's in a beautiful building. It's in the National Music Center. And you know, you can make a day of it. You can go and check out the keyboard Museum, and you can go see my grad dress, which is in a glass case somewhere in the building. I bet you any money I could fit into it, you should be so lucky to look like me when you get to be 63

28:29  
you know? I agree. Actually, I couldn't agree more. Jan looks great. Jan's glowing. She's got a full bead of face on I really like this eyeshadow color on you. And she has a slight, a slight, like, wave in your hair, kind of like a cool girl lob like a long Bob going. So, yeah, so Jan's, you're doing it lately. I mean, you got a chic, Icelandic girlfriend. You're living a very chic best life.

28:51  
Has anything about your routine for, like, getting ready changed because Thor just has really short hair. Bet you there's no blow drying.

28:57  
If you are watching on YouTube. You did not see this from me, okay, but I'm just gonna show you she did a photo shoot the other day, and I have one of the pictures. Okay, okay, okay. I'm just gonna show you what a hottie,

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What a hottie

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she has, like the eyes of a Siberian Husky. And I mean that in a complimentary way. You know what I mean, those like the piercing blue eyes, as someone with just like brown eyes. I'm like, come on, I took it.

29:22  
She said, You want to look at the pictures, you know, because they're picking she's on the cover of a big Icelandic magazine. I don't know if they did the shoot yesterday, and I just, you know, look through the pictures like, don't hit like, or anything, because, but I just thought I'd show them to you. It's top secret. I fucking taking screenshots like crazy.

29:41  
I've

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got so many great ones, but it's my screen saver.

29:50  
So one of the cutest things is Kyle's dad, his home screen is a really cute photo, one of his favorite photos of his mom. And I've always thought that this is like such a good omen for. Relationship, and his dad is the sweetest person. His parents are so in love. So you're just like, Oh my god. So this is good. You're like, you're pulling a bill and dab over there. I'm into

30:08  
it. I had, I had my dog for years.

30:10  
Yes, I was gonna say, This is funny. So my, my dad's home screen has forever been his dog, Nelly, the like, burn a doodle that you sometimes see me post. And then it switched over to my sister's now child, Oakland for a little while. So it should, so it fucking should. And then it was Stevie for a while. And I was like, does Oakland? Does Oakland know about this? Does Nelly know about this? That's so funny. Good times. I What

30:45  
else is going on in the world? Has baseball started yet? In Toronto, the Blue Jays,

30:49  
I keep you mean playoffs, because the last game of the season just happened at home. But I see what I know. Let me check

30:57  
I was kind of kidding around. I was kidding around saying, has baseball started? That was my little sports joke. I don't know. It seemed to go over everybody's head.

31:04  
Well, I can tell you that my baseball team, which is a lot less exciting than the Toronto Blue Jays, does play in semifinals tonight. And so we had grumpy. Remember, Grumpy?

31:15  
Grumpy? Give us an update. Grumpier is a guy that just does not like, um, being for some reason, like he's just not a friendly guy.

31:22  
So last week, I'm the catcher, so I spend an awful lot of time with grandpa. And interesting he he opens up like, this little bag, and he goes, You want one? As we're getting ready for the next inning, and I'm sitting there and I'm like, what? I'm like, I'm like, Yeah, is this gonna make me, like, keel over. Are you trying to mess with my team right now? And I'm like, Is this, like, gummy or you feel bad, and that's why you're offering me treats for your behavior? And he What was it? He wrote it was a brownie. And there were so many of them, like, a whole bag of them. And I was like, Guys, if I am not here tomorrow, you know exactly what happened and what went wrong. But I was like, Do you feel bad about your behavior? And he rolled his eyes at me and laughed. I bet he did. I don't know if we'll have him tonight, but by the time we're in Calgary, we will know who, who took the season. So I'm excited.

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Do you think you'll win? I

32:14  
do. I do think we'll win tonight. Sharing that energy to the Jays, I know. Well, honestly,

32:19  
every game I went to that they played, they lost. So I don't think I should engage with this team, because team, because I

32:23  
might be. I'm gonna agree with you on that. Yeah, are the

32:25  
Oakland A's still a thing? Yeah, I just remember that from my childhood Montreal Expos. Is that still a thing?

32:32  
No, no, although, I mean, I wish they were. Where did they go? Washington Nationals in 25 okay, so Toronto. I just checked the standings. Top of the Al east, no big deal over the Yankees. Three wins over the Yankees. Sorry, I'm really excited about that. Al Central, Detroit is the top team. Al West, Houston is the top team. There you go.

32:53  
Oh and Detroit has a nice stadium. I've been to a ball game there. They have a really great stadium. If you're

32:58  
just joining us. Welcome to the sports update with Caitlin, Sarah and Jan. I just, I want to get into NFL, and

33:05  
I never do.

33:06  
I feel the FOMO, but I also, at the same time, have no desire to participate, so I'm stuck in a really hard

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place. I don't, yeah, I guess I have a I have FOMO and a desire, but every time I turn it on, I just can't do it. But what I like is that every NFL game is high stakes, whereas there's so many hockey games, there's so many baseball games in a season, that I kind of don't know that any one matters. But with the NFL, each game is such fanfare. And I love the fanfare and the spectacle around the NFL, but I just, I can't get into it. The game is so stop, start. It doesn't suit my watching styles.

33:41  
You know, what's the four downs that really speeds the game along? You know, in Canada, there's only three downs. And I could tell you that, because I don't know why. I can tell you that. I don't I just, I have no desire to watch

33:54  
your American football, yeah. How do we get into this? Tell us.

33:58  
I just, I have no my cousin Tracy is fanatical the about American football,

34:07  
not just one team, okay?

34:10  
Oh no, it's one team. I don't know what it is, because if I said the wrong thing, I'd never hear the end of it. Sure, but and to the point where her car is decorated with like the flags and the shirts and the hats and the, you know, she will spend one of her weeks off. She's a defense lawyer. She works her ass off like she'll go to the place where they play, the stuff, sports field,

34:36  
the sports field, the sports

34:38  
area. Yeah, she'll, she'll go to the sports field.

34:42  
Marilyn, like on on chum, when I worked with her, she's the biggest Steelers fan of all. Yes, we know that, and so and like so. And I felt envious of her love of this, and she would have road trips to go down. And I just, I do feel like I want to get into it. It seems also like a nice Sunday ritual. It's a cozy thing to do. On a Sunday fall afternoon. Like, I have friends who get into it. They put on a pot of chili, yeah, exactly. Like, all that kind of, like, you know, stuff. And I just, it's, it flies by me, and I wind up returning to my love reality TV instead, however,

35:13  
also, like, think about your weekends, and like, the break from during the week. It's like you're telling me that I have to also prepare to have a full day on a Sunday. Oh, about is

35:23  
it just one game after the other after the other on a Sunday? I think they show a whole bunch. And how long is a game? Three hours, I don't know. You can only eat so many cheese balls. Guys like, come on,

35:34  
facts. Does

35:36  
Kyle watch any of this stuff? No.

35:39  
Kyle has the same feeling as me. He's such a hockey guy, and the speed of a hockey game is what he likes. And I think because none of us are, we're not really invested in the outcome of any one team. I mean, I like the Detroit Lions, truthfully, like, I mean, if I had to, like, pick one, then I would probably like go. But that's just because I have friends in Detroit and they are very attached to the team. So it's like, and I like Detroit as a city, blah, blah, blah, but I just think that I want to get into it, but Kyle's not. Kyle is going to go on a weekend sports trip, though, a sporting outing with his a couple of our guy friends. He's gonna go to an leafs game in Pittsburgh, and then they're gonna go see a Steelers game as well. That's fun. So they're gonna do like, a twofer.

36:20  
Very cool. Listen, it's not a holiday that I would do, but I did enjoy one thing I will say that I want to do somebody please. Caitlin, Sarah, find someone to take me to a Raptors game. Oh, I do. I do want to see a basketball game. So Canada has one NBA, NBA franchise. It's the Toronto Raptors. We're supposed to happen, Jan, I would like to go to that and I would just like to get this drink. I would just like to go, you know, maybe, maybe catch a fly ball. You know, catch a fly ball at a raptors.

36:58  
But, oh my God. My dad got hit in the chest. We're in our the new seats that he had for like, just a few games this season, and he showed me the bruise. I was like, I'm kind of happy that you're alive still, because that's

37:12  
scary. Okay, I don't can. I do not want to catch a fly ball. I do not want the ball coming near me. I generally don't like balls near my head. I'm just gonna say that. Okay, going to say that. Okay, folks, move on. We're going to voice notes we have. We encourage our listeners, week after week after goddamn week to send us voice notes. And you guys are coming through for us, because I think we have some this week. Let's see what they are. We don't screen them. And I say that earnestly, we do not know what's going to happen. So here we go. Voice Note number one, come on down.

37:46  
Hi Jan Caitlin and Sarah. It's Wendy from Toronto. From finding Wendy loved your latest video. You asked for funny dog treat stories. So here's mine. Every morning. Step one, I pick up what feels like 2000 dog toys scattered across my living room. Step 210, minutes later, they're all back out again, of course. Step three, I make my espresso, and as soon as my dog hears the coffee grinder, she's right at my side, poking me in the leg, and she's poking me and saying, Mom, I know what comes next. Where's my Greenie? Where's my Greenie? It's our little ritual coffee for me. Greenie for her, honestly, I don't give her too many treats, but I cannot stop buying her dog toys. Winners in the pet store see me coming from a mile away. So yes, my house is basically a dog toy explosion with a side of caffeine. Have a great day. Ladies. Love your podcast, and please buy my book. Finding Wendy.

38:45  
I like Wendy. I like, I like Wendy. She's been she's a part of our book bag, but I'll tell you what you don't get if you don't ask. And you know, you got to be a shameless self promoter. So finding Wendy, you can go on Amazon and buy it. I'm going to give her a plug, since she's so brazen, yes, and she's a dog person, so she's my kind of person.

39:03  
So what's new, love? Okay, here we go.

39:05  
Hello, ladies from the Jen Arden podcast, I just realized I only have two minutes to leave my message. Took me about four tries to figure this out. However, I just want to tell you that I really, really enjoy your podcast. I have a long drive to work. I live in Guelph, so like Caitlin and like Sarah, I'm kind of GTA ish, and listening to you three chat is very entertaining. You're like old friends to me, and you keep me company. Keep me laughing. You keep me engaged. Really. Well done. So I look forward to many, many more drives to and from work with all three of you. Jen, I will see you in Guelph in December. I have my tickets, and I'm really looking forward to it. I do have a good dog losing weight. Ozempic, not required. Story, I'll try to be really quick. Have a dog. His name is Nixon. He's beautiful. He's actually my son's dog, but I adopted Nixon without permission, so he's my dog. Now, Nixon was getting very, very sausage like, kind of like a big furry sausage. So I put my foot down. He was no longer allowed to go downstairs and visit grandma. So no more peanut butter on toast, no more Maple Leaf cookies, no more hot dogs. And I am pleased to say Nixon has lost over 20 pounds since February of 2025. Pretty freaking awesome. Geez. So that is everything. Thank you all for listening. I'm going to say toodaloo because, Jan, I've been saying toodaloo for a really long time, like you, but you're not saying tootaloo. You're saying like tootaloo or something like that. But hey, we can share no competition here. We're friends all the best. Totally.

40:58  
Do. I love it cute. Listen, 20 pounds

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for a dog that's just removing grandma from the situation. Come on.

41:07  
Yeah, I'm telling you, it adds up the people food and stuff. One more. One more. Oh, my God, this what a week

41:14  
we're having. I have, I have two more, if you want two more. But okay, yeah,

41:18  
Hi, ladies. I just finished listening to the podcast of animals and treats and the funny things that they do and the funny things that we do for them, because we love them so much. Jan, you'll especially love this one. I have horses, and I love them and will do anything for them, and discovered that my one horse will only eat ambrosia apples. For years, I thought he didn't like apples, and then a lady fed him a cut up ambrosia apple, and he gobbled it up. He will only eat a fresh cut up ambrosia apples. The rest, he snubs his nose, turns, walks away, and we'll let all the other horses eat the apples, if they are not ambrosia. Love listening to your podcast. Keep up the great work and take care everybody. Love you all.

42:12  
Bye. Thank you. Thank you so much. Okay, that's bizarre, because apples, I couldn't tell you if I had three apples lined up that were completely different varieties. I couldn't tell you anything, too, couldn't I think I could identify a Macintosh Apple because they were my least favorite. They're that soft, mushy inside. They're the red with the little ridges on the top. That's a Macintosh. I hate them. Don't ever send them

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to us. Okay,

42:39  
thank you for that. Yeah. Last one.

42:42  
Hi Jen Caitlin and Sarah. This is Jennifer from Rocky view County, Alberta. Jan's neighbor to the north my hood, Jan, spring bank, isn't a town you live in Rocky view County, same as me. It's a donut that basically goes all the way around the city of Calgary. Now you are a prominent subdivision, as is bears paw. I, on the other hand, am stuck in no man's land between bears paw and Cochran, but we like to call it a subdivision mountain ridge place, community. Anyways, your question was, What food should be? A spring bank food? Well, it's traditionally cattle country, so I would say beef, except you're a vegan, so that doesn't work. Hay that's not for human consumption. So I give up. I can't help you with that question. Wanted to let you know you need to make sure that you take Sarah to ghost Lake. Please make sure she's on a watercraft and Caitlin, because you don't want to swim in there. It's only 100 kilometers from the glacier that is its source. Anyways, doodles,

43:56  
I got people doing toodles, and totally do. And you do, yeah, it's, it's, it's catching on. I'm telling you, it's going to be a Canadian. They're going to do they're going to trademark it. How do you say goodbye in Canadian? You say toodles, or totally do? My mother said totally

44:13  
do I

44:13  
love she said it all the time. And I never heard anyone else in my life ever say totally do, but her,

44:22  
I didn't know the source of our sign off. That's great.

44:27  
Yes, mom,

44:28  
the origin story of totally

44:30  
do. She did it on the phone all the time. Talk to you, mom. Totally do. Always, always, always. That's so that you learned. Okay, listen, we're going to hang up now, when I say hang up, I mean, we're hanging up the land mine. And once again. Caitlin, Sarah, thank you. We didn't have a guest this week, but we like getting together, just the three of us. And you know, figuring out what's going on, join us on Patreon. We're going to record that right now and have it ready for you. But we are going to be talking about a little argument that. That Sarah had with her dad. We've got some other stuff as well. At Bruin, I want to ask Caitlin about the Mormon wives, because there's some there's some reality TV show with Mormon wives. So okay, so I'm going to ask her about that, and I think that's going to be pretty much all the time we have for Patreon. But listen, come see us. September The 19th at the National Music Center in Calgary. We have 50 tickets left. We're doing a live podcast now. Hidden energy is going to be our guest, and there's so many things to talk about. We're not going to dwell on politics, but it's going to be a really uplifting, fun night, and you'll want to see what we're wearing. Listen, you're just going to see, you're going to want to see what we're wearing. We are not coordinating. We're not getting it from the goodwill. We were going to do that. We're going to pick out we were going to pick out outfits for each other, by

45:45  
the way, speaking of tiff there was a clip of Ryan Reynolds talking about the brilliance of Blues Brothers last week. I just wanted to vindicated. No, no, no. But also just quick reminder, if you are making a whole day or weekend of it. We've got a promo code in the show notes for you if you want to check out the NMC and all the beautiful music history that they have in that building. Jan SB, I don't know why they made that promo code. I didn't ask to be a part of it, but

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I think it's Jan super bitch, is what they've gone for there. So Jan SB, if you're having any trouble remembering that, Jan, super bitch, you're gonna get a promo code. Come see us. Come see us. And other than that, Look after yourselves. We will see you on the other side of whatever we're doing now. But we really, really are excited about the live it's gonna be our only live show this this year. We think we tried every which way from Monday to try and find something else in Toronto when I was on tour, but my tour schedule is so silly that it ain't gonna happen. But anyway, we forge on. We will see you next time. Don't forget to subscribe. Don't forget to leave us little stars on the review. It helps people find the podcast and totally do you.

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