Surviving The Deep Freeze One Laugh At a Time

Jann Arden  0:00  
hello. Welcome to the Jann Arden podcast and show. I am joined, as always, with Caitlin Green from her Toronto home, and Sarah Burke also from her Toronto home. I am not in my Canadian home. I am in my Icelandic home. I'm here in downtown Reykjavik. I've been here for five days, and I'm here till the end of the month, which is really nice. And I'm trying to work on my book, so hoping, I'm really hoping to get it finished, and I'm hoping that this book is not going to take me 13 years like the last one. I want to hear the good things. I want to hear about positive things that have happened in your respective lives. Caitlin, I'm going to start with you because I think it's a good way to start our podcasts and our viewers, our listeners, they love kind of these positive stories from us, and they want to know about our lives. So let's, let's do it and really dish it out. Caitlin, I want the dirt on your good good things.

Caitlin Green  1:04  
I really had a great weekend of watching. Will make new friends. And I think that's, like, a very cute thing is, like watching because kids get along, or they, you know, some of they don't get along, but when they actually really take to each other, and you can see that there's a real personality match, even at the tender age of three years old. It's really fun and exciting. And so we brought him with us to Collingwood. We go there a lot because we have a friend with a place there. We have a couple friends with places there, and lots of kids around. And so we had a morning play date with friends who have a son who's only a month different from like, month off from will, and they have a one year old baby, and we had never met the baby, so we went over there. We had coffee and will, and their son got on like a house on fire. I mean, by the end of it, they were asking for sleepovers. One of them had, like, the other friend had to go to swimming classes. He wanted will to come to swimming classes. Will's like, When can we see each other again? It was so cute. There was no issue sharing. And he made a lot of friends on the weekend. Like, we had dinner at another friend's place up there, and they had four other kids there. The kids are just running around, you know, watching a movie in the basement while the adults have dinner, playing with, like, they had a bunch of old toys, because it was at his parents ski chalet, and they had a bunch of old toys, like from the 80s and 90s. And just watching a whole gaggle of kids play with, like, old Play School toys was very heartwarming. And just seeing them have their little friendships and like their little lives. And I loved it. So that was definitely. Watching your kid make friends as a is a highlight.

Jann Arden  2:28  
Outside of you. It must be kind of weird. I always feel that way about Poppy, like he's with Angela, and, you know, I get these videos, and he's out with Teddy. I don't know Teddy with this other guy, and I'm thinking, My dog has a social life that I know nothing about, like he has friends outside of me. He knows Angela way better than I do. I'm not sure how I feel about it, still, I got really big FOMO, yeah, from missing out on his life and not going on these walks. And he's walking like I'm surprised. I'm not gonna get a fucking video from Nepal. Like, you know, here's Poppy and I going up, you know, the Himalayan Mountains, and here's Poppy with his Sherpa. Like, that's what it feels like to me. It's like, these really big life events. But, yeah, anyway,

Caitlin Green  3:15  
anytime you like care for something, right? It's this push pull of you can become exhausted by it. You can become overwhelmed by the responsibility of it. It can be emotional for you when you're away from them for work, right? And so the same thing for kids and like dogs, if you have to be away from them, it's a stressor. But you do need to have your independence, and they benefit from Independence, I'm sure, as well. And so it's nice for you to see like, okay, look, I wish I was there to be with poppy, but someone who really cares about Poppy is there taking care of him. He's having a great time. He's hanging out with Teddy, you know? And that's how it feels when we take a much needed parent break. And usually, you know, my my dad will step in and help, and I'm like, Oh, I get to see all the cute things they're doing, and you miss them, but you're like, I do also need some time away. So it's challenging. And also will is in the background of my condo right now. He's home. Shocker to everyone who listens to the show, and it's like, is Caitlin ever helping something? You'll be surprised to learn that he has another illness. It just materialized, literally, Dickensian. Is it a Dickensian illness? Is it? No, it's not quite Dickensian, although Jan, let's not rule it out, like it could go into the direction of, like some sort of a plague, a medieval scarlet fever. Everything's back. I mean consumption, tuberculosis

Jann Arden  4:28  
Will's got consumption,

Caitlin Green  4:32  
like just coughing into a little handkerchief. It's very, feels very Tiny Tim, but he developed like he gets croup a little bit, if any parent knows it's like that barking cough, so his barking cough started overnight. None of us slept. If you're looking at this on YouTube, my eyes are just about puffed shut.

Sarah Burke  4:46  
Too bad. Your lighting is so good that your skin looks glowing. You're fine.

Jann Arden  4:51  
The sun is hitting you and giving you like life. I don't know, yeah, let me tell you. Kardashian, there's nothing.

Caitlin Green  4:58  
There's nothing that sometime at the. Cosmetic Dermatologist can't do for your skin, because this is not me. This is like, this is some Botox. This is birthday Botox, doing its heavy lifting. But underneath here, yeah, I could use some help. Anyways, everyone listening is like, what the hell she talking about? But yeah, so I'm really tired, so we'll see. That was the upside of, you know, of being a parent. And then the downside is, I've had two hours of sleep, and he is definitely going to walk in on this podcast, steal my microphone and wave to everybody. So, you know, it is what it is.

Jann Arden  5:25  
Well, he might have something decent to say. Our listeners might like that. We might have to have him as a weekly feature. Sarah, what's going on in your life?

Sarah Burke  5:33  
Dan, are you there? Okay, the dogs might need to go out. Dan just got home. Dan is here, you know, some winter accident situation, so Dan's basically been snowed in here. We're dealing with a rental car and yeah, so that's not the good for the week, but it is nice to see him, of course. Good to see him live. Good to see him alive, exactly. But my good news for the week would be winning Canadian Choice Award for women in media network I won so in Toronto, little it's, it's in Toronto for Entertainer of the Year, and there's a little gala in June. And yeah, I'm pretty excited about it. Congratulations.

Jann Arden  6:16  
Amazing that Caitlin and I have a lot to do with that. Of course, of course, you do. We will be expecting to be at your very expensive table.

Sarah Burke  6:25  
I know I went and looked at the prices, and I was like, well, maybe I won't pay my mortgage that month to go. We'll see.

Jann Arden  6:30  
Yeah, oh God, we'll help you. We'll do a fundraiser. We'll sell almonds door to door, or something chocolate covered

Sarah Burke  6:36  
on lemonade. Yeah, I love it. Yes, do it. Let's do it.

Jann Arden  6:40  
Those are that that's really good. Congratulations. You've you've worked really hard. There's will, if you're watching from on YouTube, from home, will is not feeling great.

Caitlin Green  6:50  
He heard me say yay for Sarah, and ran in and said, Why are you saying Yeah? Can you say hi? Can you say congratulations? Now he's shy. Now he's shy. Okay, go, go.

Jann Arden  7:01  
I think it's really important to celebrate little things and don't make light of this, Sarah, something that you've worked really hard for. This is about you taking a chance. I mean, any entrepreneurs out there right now, you guys know full well what it's like to not only financially put yourself on the line, whether it's taking out small loans or borrowing from the in laws, or going into your savings, you know, to do things that you've always wanted to do, and it's always a risk, but the rewards, as we have seen, how many podcasts did you start with on the women media network? You know the whole thing, how many podcasts?

Sarah Burke  7:38  
When I, like, announced the network? There were seven podcast, seven podcasts, and right now, where are you now? 21 Yeah, so it's just nuts. Yeah, there's a new podcast I'll tell you guys more about, especially because I think it deals a lot with, like, digital safety, which we talk about a lot here anyway. But yeah, this new podcast, called parents Uncharted, is is the 21st and it's hosted by a gal named Sarah Adams, and she goes by mom Uncharted online. She's got a really big social following. And cool, it's all about how you can protect kids online amazing and navigate it as a parent. So, yeah, I'll put a link in the show notes if you want to check that out. But yeah, it's, it's important to celebrate, for sure, and like, I give you guys huge kudos, because, like, the biggest challenge in podcasting, I will say straight up, is getting people to consistently podcast and release on their schedule. And you guys are the best at that. You know, how many, how many episodes did we put out in 2025, right? Like, yeah, I think we had one of you too. No, we had one week of Best of material to end the year and to start this year. And that's it, like, yeah, kudos to you guys.

Jann Arden  8:43  
Well, I really enjoy doing it. I mean, in Iceland right now, I'm five hours ahead of Toronto, so the girls are recording this, it's a Tuesday. I mean, yeah, in Iceland right now I'm five hours ahead of Toronto, so the girls are recording this, it's a Tuesday, yeah. And they are recording it's about 11 ish am. It's 11:23am, and it's 423 for me. And I've actually got one more podcast that I'm doing today for Melissa Grell, Oh, nice. And she's, she's got podcast, I think it's called aging, effortlessly, aging, powerfully, aging, powerfully, I'm sorry, two or two of them powerfully and effortlessly kind of go hand in hand. I think that's a nice way of thinking about it. But I'll be, I'll be doing that podcast at 830 and sort of like 330 her time. But it's, it's amazing to think of just these different time changes, like in how we can still do it. Oh, it's, oh yeah, amazing. And I look forward to it. Well, I think the technology too. Sarah just got my computer. I've got my mic. I throw it in my suitcase, I plug it in and say what you will about you know, Elon Musk and the billions of satellites that are circling the globe. But it makes life doable. It makes long distance relationships. Man, I literally edited

Sarah Burke  9:59  
it in his trial. We using Starlink last week and drove his loader at the job site. Oh, are we

Caitlin Green  10:05  
still talking about? No, I'm kidding, yeah,

Sarah Burke  10:10  
you're funny. I

Caitlin Green  10:11  
think it's very interesting too, that, like Jan, you genuinely do enjoy making the show, because you always make time for it. And when we see Jan's schedule, we're like, how, how, truly. And we're like, there are weeks where, you know, many, many other people would obviously take time off. And I think delivering a show week after week for six years, pandemic or not, lockdowns or not. I mean, even when I was producing the show with you and Arlene, the amount of time that you would put into making yourself available, and that was in person, in a studio, you know, recording like three episodes at once. And so I do think that that has a lot to do with just like any sort of successful show, is just the consistency of doing it all the time.

Jann Arden  10:48  
Yeah, I think when people can log on, certainly our listeners, high fives to all you guys, when people can log on and just know that it's something they can count on on their Friday evenings or Saturday mornings with their coffee and check in with us. Yeah, we have a real sense from you guys that you are making those commutes and putting on the pod anyway. There's so many other things to talk about today and kind of keeping in line with just good things that are happening in the world. This is also Alzheimer's Awareness Month, so I'm pretty sure that's where we're sitting. And I know you guys have seen this story before, because I've had it pop up on my Instagram feed many times, but I just wanted to see what you guys thought it is. So Tokyo has a restaurant. It might even be a chain of restaurants, and it's called the restaurant of mistaken orders, and they hire servers with dementia of all ages. So whether you're you have early onset Alzheimer's, or if you are a senior, so not only do you have dementia, but think about hiring seniors in your business, and they let people know when they come in and sit down in this fully equipped restaurant, that you may not get your order. You may get a different order. You may never see your server again after you see them the first time. That's so interesting, but it's part of the charm, and people are lined up to go to the restaurant of mistaken orders. Now, would you go to this place?

Sarah Burke  12:15  
I think knowing ahead of time that, like, the order might get lost, I would, because it's like, a beautiful thing, yeah, to let those people you know, interact with you in that way.

Jann Arden  12:27  
But, I mean, imagine ordering fish and chips, and they come back with a donut, they come back with a donut. I wouldn't

Caitlin Green  12:32  
go with will, because I think it would be, we would be right for a meltdown if he was like, but I ordered french fries like he wouldn't get it. But, yeah, going with, like, my girlfriend or husband or husband or family, my family members like that would be really sweet, because, yeah, my grandmother had vascular dementia, and I have a lot of friends who've had family members, you know, parents who were taken out really, really young with severe dementia. And I know what a heartbreaking disease it is. And so anything you can do to, I mean, improve the lives of any senior citizens, but certainly people who are suffering with dementia, and give them that socialization like, oh, yeah, big time. I bet so many, like, nice influencers will go and, like, film their experiences there. And I think that'll be, like, some pretty hard, great content.

Sarah Burke  13:11  
Yeah, I saved a story that was about dementia the other day. I'm trying to find it while we're on this topic. But yeah, like, I think you got to have patience and empathy for situations like that, and knowing up front right like Jen, what you always used to say about your mom is like, don't try to correct her.

Jann Arden  13:27  
Like, no, God forbid. On a funnier note, this could have been any night at Earl's, really the last 15 times that I've been there, you know, you order something and they put like a double Caesar in front of you, and you're like, I didn't order. I just wanted to Diet Coke. And they're like, oh, and they're like, and they literally, sometimes these young girls and like this our servers not looking like they're in their late teens. Now to you guys, when you go into any restaurant anywhere, yeah, because I'm Holy shit, okay, but anyways, I'll let Sarah, but it is funny, they're just like, well, just keep it, because I don't know who this belongs to. We won't charge you for it, but Will somebody eat it or drink it? So yeah,

Sarah Burke  14:07  
and Caitlin, you might be in this group. It's like a Facebook group back when that was a cool thing, and it's for radio people. Okay, so someone shared this, someone kept calling the radio station requesting the same song for 114 days straight. I'm a DJ at K rock, 98 three, overnight shift, midnight to 6am mostly lonely truckers and insomniacs listening around 115 every single night, same number calls, same request. November, rain, Guns N Roses, eight minute guitar solo version. Okay, so the first week I played it, thought maybe someone loved that song. The second week I started screening the calls. We just played that yesterday. How about something else went on for months. My co workers thought it was hilarious. They started a betting pool. Day 47 Look, buddy, what's the deal with the song? Long silence, then just play it, please. The voice sounded older, male, tired. I played it. Day 82 my manager told me to block the number. I didn't block it. Day 91 I answered. Before they could speak, I said, it's queued up. It's playing at 130 like you don't even have to hear the phone call at this point. Day 114 it's a female instead. At the same time, this is about the November rain requests. My grandfather passed away this morning. He won't be calling anymore. The radio host stomach drops. He had dementia. Couldn't remember much, but he remembered that song. Said it was playing when he proposed to my grandma. Proposed to my grandmother in 92 at some restaurant. She died five years ago. The song was the only piece of her he could still hold on to. He'd get confused at night, agitated. The only thing that calmed him down was this song. So he was listening on the radio, and for eight minutes he would remember her. Thank you for playing it, even when you were annoyed. Jesus. Isn't that so sweet, though?

Jann Arden  15:41  
It's well, you just don't know. I mean, I wouldn't have had that patience. I think I would have been those people going especially after 92 days. I really don't think I would have done that not knowing the backstory at the time. I think, yeah, knowing the backstory I wouldn't have. But yeah, I don't good for them. I think I've

Caitlin Green  16:00  
had experiences in radio where you go through so I had a call, a regular caller named Tony. Tony wasn't well, like he had some mental health difficulties, and he had actually contracted hepatitis C from tainted blood transfusion, and so he was in poor health, and he wound up passing away. But this guy called the called the show every day, and I could, I knew I could do his voice like, perfectly in the room. He would always go, Whoa, hi, Caitlin, and that was Tony, and he knew me. And when I he had stopped calling, like, he randomly just stopped calling, and he called every day. And you do go through Jan, that period where you're like, kind of annoyed because you're in the middle of a live show, right? But then eventually you come to like, expect the call, you build a bit of a rapport, and then you like it, and then it's a feature of the show, to an extent. And we had some, we had a few callers like that. And when I noticed that he hadn't called in a while, I actually, I knew his last name. I knew a lot about him from him calling and talking to me all the time, and I looked him up, and he had passed away, and I knew he had health issues. And I told, you know, I told everyone on the show, we told the room, and we were all genuinely very sad. And it's so it's a funny little relationship that can pop up with the regular, regular listeners who actually call in and you hear their voice and you talk to them. So that's so sweet. That makes me, like, very heartwarmed. Well, I hope

Jann Arden  17:17  
they find a cure for this. I

Sarah Burke  17:19  
feel like you were talking about this with another media podcast, Terry Hart's podcast, too. She's covering some Alzheimer's stuff this month. I think we were, we were sort of talking about a couple weeks ago. So there's no shortage of great content that is actually putting a spotlight on this stuff right now, which is nice.

Jann Arden  17:36  
Well, I just wanted to mention the Tokyo restaurant that you know, the restaurant of wrong orders. It's really great.

Jann Arden  17:52  
Moving on this, Caitlin, you brought this story in, and I gotta, I think it's funny, just being a public person myself. This is about chopple gangers and somebody had mistaken the word doppelganger. And if you recall, we talked to Naomi Klein, you know, a year and a half ago, about her award winning book called doppelganger, which was about Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein, and how they were always getting mixed up. And, you know, couldn't be more different women, you know, very right wing, very sort of left wing. But anyway, a chopple Ganger, let me just read you a bit here. Okay, Gen Z's new dis is a mash up of chopped a slang for ugly and, of course, doppelganger, a person who looks like you. And I will give it over to you. Caitlin to finish this, yeah.

Caitlin Green  18:42  
So chopple Ganger is when someone allegedly looks like the ugly version of you.

Jann Arden  18:48  
So people are posting pictures side by each so let's just use J Lo for an example. Yeah, and they find a chopple Ganger that's a really weird version of J Lo that is a homelier version of J Lo. I mean, yeah, I don't know.

Caitlin Green  19:04  
It's basically like making fun of, you know, your friends making fun of, maybe, like an ex has started going social, especially on Tiktok. And it's, it's basically now going to be people think on the shortlist for Word of the Year is chopple Ganger. So it's, a look alike, who's basically you, but slightly worse. And again, if you're if you're

Unknown Speaker  19:26  
slightly worse kills me. Well,

Caitlin Green  19:28  
it's funny because, like, have you ever had Jann being a public figure? Someone tell you that they always get told that they look like you, and then you

Jann Arden  19:36  
constantly come back to me and say, Oh, my friends say I look like you, and I literally am standing there looking at them, going, not in your fucking life like you. Look alike at all.

Caitlin Green  19:48  
I And again, like, I'm I'm not a well known public figure, but well enough a couple like, it's all I'll say is, like, it's happened a couple of times where I've been, I think specifically. Couple times at concerts, and I probably had, I probably got tickets from work, and so I was seated in a similar section to other listeners who had won tickets. Oh yeah, I've been in that position. Yes, yeah, Sarah, so you know I'm talking about and then someone will come up and say, you know, they're so sweet. I love them right away. And they're like, I love the show I listen to all the time. Blah, blah, blah, can I get a photo? And then they'll say, all my friends say, like, I look just like you.

Unknown Speaker  20:21  
And you're like, oh god.

Caitlin Green  20:24  
I don't think we look anything to like, I don't think we are even 20 years, like, close in age. Like, it's just like, it's, it's just crazy. So you hear that, and you go like, Oh, cool, amazing. Yeah, I totally see it.

Jann Arden  20:36  
I think the worst thing anyone ever said to me in along this line is I was in like a staples or something, probably looking for an ink cartridge, which seemed like the bane of my existence 10 years ago. You look like Jann Arden's mother, only fatter.

Caitlin Green  20:55  
Someone says to you out loud, yes, yes. Oh my

Sarah Burke  20:59  
god. People have

Caitlin Green  21:01  
no sense of socialization, that people's social skills are truly in the toilet.

Jann Arden  21:06  
But never mind that she was dressing me as me. She didn't think it was me. She said, You look you could be Jane Arden's mother, only fatter. But I seriously just thought I really had a smile in my heart, like it made me laugh. I didn't sit there and going, Oh poor me, because I'm thinking, Oh, I look pretty good today. I got pants on. This is I don't have my red fucking shorts on for feeding the birds. Oh, my God, I know the red we know the red shorts.

Sarah Burke  21:38  
Well, I've seen you in action in those Jane, do

Caitlin Green  21:42  
you have you ever been told, or Sarah, that you guys look like another celebrity? And who has it been?

Sarah Burke  21:46  
Hmm, I have been, but I don't remember the celebrity.

Jann Arden  21:50  
It depends on what photograph they're using me for, because I've heard all kinds of things. I used to get compared to somebody from 90210, she just passed away, actually, what? Oh, she's the dark haired girl, Shannon Doherty, yeah, I would get Shannon Doherty.

Sarah Burke  22:08  
Well, okay, I can kind of see that a little bit. I've gotten Christina Applegate. I've gotten Yeah, times when your hair was dark, Shannon Doherty, but

Jann Arden  22:16  
depending on Yeah, you know the photograph. So I have had weird I've had a few weird things.

Sarah Burke  22:23  
Just remembered something. So grade eight, I went to an art school, so I was like, removed from my neighborhood, and I had to audition to get into the school. The way that they put you in your classes, they like call your names and tell you to go stand at your teacher in a big gymnasium on the first day, because it's like a special program. So they call Sarah Burke. Two of us stand up, and it's my second cousin who I've never met before, and we look identical. Oh, we were both like, What the I went home to tell my mom that there's another Sarah Burke like, only for her to be like, Oh, we didn't know that she auditioned to go to the school, I guess anyway. And there was another girl, same age, who ended up also going to my high school. Jen Donnelly. I doubt that she listens to this podcast, but people called me and her Sarah or Jen all the time, like we were mistaken for each other the entire four years of high school.

Caitlin Green  23:11  
Oh my gosh, yeah. Super weird. That's crazy.

Speaker 1  23:14  
Yeah, it's a bit close. I was like,

Sarah Burke  23:18  
I'm older. She's one year younger. I was like, your parents should have done better name you something else you're gonna have the same last name, agreed?

Jann Arden  23:25  
Yeah, it's always fun, though, and you never know what people are gonna say to you. And I don't take any offense to it, and I really think we all do have a doppelganger. I think that somewhere in this world you have someone that looks so very similar to you. There's a photographer, and his name escapes me, and we'll try and put this in the show notes, because I'll go back over this with you, Sarah. But okay, sure, he for, he for many, many years, probably decades. This is a guy that has, and I don't know what his process is, but he literally finds doppelgangers, people that look identical to each other that are not related at all. Oh, wow. And he has spent his life's work, wow. You know, finding someone, or I don't even know what the process would be like, do you just start with an individual, and then do you go on a search to find someone that looks like Caitlin green or looks like Sarah Burke? But there's a series of pictures that often pops up on social media that blows my mind when they preface it. He prefaces it. He said, These people are not related, and this is just people that I have found during my project, and you would be hard pressed to not think they were identical twins. Is it Francois Brunell, is it saying that this is what he's done? Is found people that look uncannily

Sarah Burke  24:40  
alike, captures doppelgangers, unrelated people who look remarkably alike. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I got it

Jann Arden  24:46  
processes, but if you ever, if, yeah, it's very worth but I really believe that. I think there's someone, whether they are an Egyptian version of you or Lithuanian version of you, or whatever the case may be,

Caitlin Green  24:58  
you know, the case of i. Always immediately think of the celebrity doppelgangers, Will Ferrell and then the drummer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Chad Smith. Oh, yeah. So good. They look directly related, right? And so this happens in Hollywood sometimes. And, you know, I think of Amy Adams Isla Fisher looks super alike. And I think Bryce Dallas Howard looks a lot like Jessica Chastain like there's a bunch of them. Oh, another one. Matt Bomer and Henry Cavill are, like, the two most handsome yet not related men.

Jann Arden  25:27  
Yeah, there's only so many combinations, and then we kind of just start morphing into each other.

Sarah Burke  25:33  
Anyway, I like this other Reddit thread that Caitlin had on the docket.

Jann Arden  25:37  
I did want to talk about that. Yes, go ask, Which one did you guys like?

Sarah Burke  25:41  
What's something you thought everyone did until you found out that they don't? Yes, so many well,

Jann Arden  25:47  
that you're alone in your habit, that you're completely alone and isolated with your weird thoughts. This sounds like the Kinsey report here.

Sarah Burke  25:54  
I'll start with this one, because this morning, I sneezed 20 times just from the sun, sneezing in reaction to the sun or a sudden bright light, like when I go into the gym in the morning, they got big windows every time I'm like, two two. It's like they think I'm sick every day and I'm not.

Caitlin Green  26:08  
I just learned about this now through this Reddit thread, and I don't know anyone else who's ever done this, but not in real life. But now I know you, Sarah, I didn't know this was a thing. I didn't know this was, like, a physiological response.

Jann Arden  26:17  
I know people sneezing because of the sun. That's very common,

Sarah Burke  26:20  
like sense. I know a lot of people, and in dead of winter, when it's like, snow on the ground is bright and reflecting the sun up at you, it doesn't happen to me in the summer. It happens to me in the winter.

Jann Arden  26:29  
That's funny. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I sort of went through this list and it was interesting. One of them was, you know, goosebumps, listening to music. And the interesting thing about this, and the reason I bring this up is that there's people that physiologically cannot get goosebumps. Me, what? Yeah, so it's not part of your genetic makeup. You can't get goosebumps, but it is a really cool thing to listen to something, or even look at a piece of art or hear a chilling story, or watch something, or read a passage in a book, and your your hair, and your your you know this, folks, you just get, like, these little Pimply bumps on your skin.

Caitlin Green  27:09  
I'm jealous of everyone else, because they'll say, you know, one of our past guests and one of our great friends, Lori, deAnn, Tara, Laurie, yeah, she, if she's doing a reading with you, she'll say, I've, oh, I've got gooseies. And she'll show me. And I said to her, I was like, I've never had those. And my, my father in law, gets them all the time, and I just never, I've never gotten them.

Jann Arden  27:27  
You know, there's got to be other ways in which you express the exact same kind of feeling. I don't, I don't think it has to be like a physical reaction to something like getting goosebumps. I think, I think Caitlin, you probably have all the emotions that you would have from that anyway. A couple other ones that were interesting, the washing your hands after a restroom. Like I watch people when I go into the washroom. I travel so much, I think when I'm in an airport, and yes, it's busy. And yes, there's in women's bathrooms all over the world, there's always a lineup. I think men go in and they pee 10 people at a time on one urinal. I'm not sure what goes on in there, but women wait for their stalls. They just wait. And there's always a longer lineup for women's washrooms than there is for men's but anyways, I do watch how many people wash their hands, and a great majority do not really. They come out of the stalls, I'm telling you, and they go out the door. So listen, they might have antibacterial because everybody does in their purses these days. Everybody's carrying it. That is an acceptable swap to me. If you have a quick pee in the bathroom and you're not

Sarah Burke  28:40  
like touching I would rather see you using it as you're coming out of the stall.

Caitlin Green  28:44  
Though, I was just gonna say, Sarah, I have been in a situation where there has been a backlog of women at the sinks because the bathroom was so full. And I will have a hand sanitizer in my purse. I make a point of using offering on my offering it, or I just want to use it on the way out, because I think, you know, say you're a movie theater or you're at the airport, and you might be on the same flight as someone, I don't want them to be like, ew, gross. There's that person who didn't wash their hands. So I have done that, but it's very rare. It's pretty rare.

Sarah Burke  29:13  
What about the brushing your tongue? Do you guys brush your tongue

Jann Arden  29:16  
every day? Me too, two, three times a day. And I think my dentist was just like, you know, that's as important as brushing your teeth. And I'm like, Oh, cool. Don't have to tell me twice another thing while we're on this. Ooh, what an interesting podcast, folks. This is like an ask us at anything the insider edition, because it's just the three of us here. But using mouthwash is a no, no, no. Big time. No, no. My friend Leah, Leah Gautier, who was one of my writers on the Jann show, hi Leah, she tells me this last year, and I was an avid mouth washer, used it all up in hotels. You can't use it because it's killing. Really important. Bio, the bio, stomach. Bio, yeah. Gut health, yeah, your gut health. I didn't know this. I just knew I was 62 years old when I found

Sarah Burke  30:11  
this out. And there's like, a time and place, like, if you you know you're in a pinch, fine, use some mouthwash and move on with your life. But yeah, not enough.

Caitlin Green  30:18  
You know these things, because somebody makes a Tiktok about it and it goes viral. But I also think, like, there are so many times where I've learned something, like on the internet or just in life, and as a result, I've gone into my doctor and my dentist and say, Hey, should I be like, should I be using salt water rinse every single day? Should I be doing X, Y or Z? And they go, oh, yeah, of course. I'm like, not. Of course, your marketing is terrible. You guys haven't told us this. Why is some random person on the internet telling me?

Speaker 1  30:44  
Yeah, that's fair. Do you guys shower every day, twice a day, twice a day?

Jann Arden  30:50  
Doesn't your skin sometimes three if I get up and shower, a quick one, a rinse off, I'm not gonna say full grooming, legs, armpits, blah, blah, blah, yeah. And I certainly don't wash my hair, but if and then I'm I just feel awake, and then I'll have like a quick, if I have a workout, then I'm gonna, of course, yeah. And then, like, if I'm gonna go out somewhere, or, do believe me, I'm showered, and I actually blew dry my hair and I put makeup on for this. And I will also have, like, a quick little rinse off tonight when I before I go to bed, and I'm talking

Sarah Burke  31:28  
30 seconds, like, just because you like feeling clean, getting into your

Jann Arden  31:31  
body, I do. I just, I just want to put my jammies on and feel like clean and yeah, and I have to

Caitlin Green  31:37  
shower every day, or I find that my day is not productive. It's the same as making the bed, yeah, even if it's like a really quick, like, five minute shower, I just can't I have it's like a reset in my brain. Yeah? But also, Jan, I was trained like you, because I would when I was working mornings, I would shower and do everything the night before so that I could sleep more in the morning. So I became accustomed to the evening shower. And I learned from friends also who had lived in Asia, that that was really customary in China, specifically, is that they find it crazy that we shower in the morning. They're like, you have to wash the day off before you get into your bed. So it even differs, like, you know, culture to culture.

Sarah Burke  32:13  
Yeah, it can be really relaxing to shower before bed, that's for sure, because I only shower before bed if I've done like, a hot yoga class at night. Yeah, and yeah, and then you're like, Ooh, I like, why put a light on? Let's just keep this going right through to bedtime.

Caitlin Green  32:26  
You know, a dark shower is actually so relaxing,

Sarah Burke  32:29  
yeah, with a little eucalyptus essential oil, fuck yeah, yeah.

Jann Arden  32:32  
I think it's important to have, like, a routine that works for you, but, but I, and I haven't always done this, the nighttime shower was usually associated with being on tour. That's fair. I always used to be pretty good with the daytime shower, of washing my face really well, and, you know, giving myself a quick wipe down to go to bed. But then, if I'm working and singing, I'm sweaty and out there I am in that shower and all the makeup. Oh yeah, God, if I if they had a machine that I could put my face into to take my makeup off. Please. Someone invent it. You just, you just put your face in, and I'm sure something would go haywire, and the makeup, the automatic makeup remover took off another face in Pasadena this morning. You know, it's just never going to be something that you feel completely safe doing is sticking your face into a box. But do you

Caitlin Green  33:23  
remember you? Everyone would remember Judy from the Jetsons, and how you would get to go in the little the conveyor belt that would get you ready for bed. I always would want that you're so tired you're just like couch rotting and you don't want to change. You just want to be able to sit in a chair and have someone get you all ready for bed. Yeah, I would pay top dollar for that. My thing. Do you guys get nightmares constantly? Okay, I didn't know that it was uncommon statistically as an adult. I didn't think nobody else had it. I didn't think everyone else had it, but I thought more people have them than do, because I get them all the time, like, more often than not, I'm having a stressful, bad dream.

Sarah Burke  34:00  
It's because of cannabis. I don't think I dream a lot, but I did have one really vivid dream last week with a giant green snake in it, and I was, like,

Jann Arden  34:09  
so bizarre dream,

Sarah Burke  34:10  
but I have mostly swapped over to edibles, like versus like smoking, so things are good. Just in case Jen got worried there, I my lungs.

Jann Arden  34:19  
I'm all for you know, I'm a fan of that stuff like I am. I'm not. I'm no medical person. I don't do it myself. But I would absolutely rather if I had children, and I think of you as my daughters. You know that I would much rather see you guys doing edibles than drinking?

Sarah Burke  34:35  
Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. And I would prefer that than drinking, to be honest.

Jann Arden  34:39  
And I've often been asked, you know, have you ever thought about that? And I think, as a sober person who has a very addictive personality, I'd be like, jam, you can't. You're eating a bag of these a day. Like you can't do this all the time. And I'd be like, I just like the taste. I don't. It's not the feeling that I'm going to participate. Taste.

Caitlin Green  35:00  
Jane, what kind of do you have any, like, recurring, common nightmares,

Jann Arden  35:04  
um, losing my dog, okay, can't not, not being able to find Poppy, yeah, that's a big one. And, and also not being able to dial a number on my phone.

Sarah Burke  35:14  
Okay, that's interesting. Do you

Caitlin Green  35:16  
ever have any stage nightmares, like you're on stage, you don't have any pants, or you're, like, not ready for a show? Yeah, that's a good that's a big one.

Jann Arden  35:22  
Can't play my guitar, okay, yeah, don't know how to play guitar, and I don't know any that. Hi, Dan, Hi. Dan, say hi, hi.

Unknown Speaker  35:32  
You just brought me in an orange juice. That's so nice.

Caitlin Green  35:37  
Things are changing here on the Jann Arden podcast. Started podcast, the love pod.

Speaker 2  35:46  
Sorry, soon we'll be making another pod. The Love pod, making another pod,

Sarah Burke  35:55  
and we're gonna cut to commercials right now so we can regain our composure. We'll be right back. You.

Jann Arden  36:07  
Welcome back to the Jann Arden podcast we have composed ourselves. You know, love is in the air. Love is in the air. And it's the first time that Caitlin and I have laid eyes on Dan. We've only seen him in in his Tinder profile. So so now we're seeing him in real He's real, guys, he's real, he's he's really real. And he brought her an orange juice. Okay, let's, let's not go back into silly land. This was funny, and it's also a Reddit thing that Caitlin brought in, and I laughed out loud at these what sport is a lot more dangerous than it seems. I would just like to say Pickleball is fucking dangerous. The one time that I played it with my neighbor, Theresa, I was all kinds of like broken after an hour of that stuff. I well she did have the court inside of a Quonset that was surrounded by farming equipment that I kept like running into. But aside from that, lots of like groin injuries. I twisted my ankle. I got my arm caught in the net. I tripped like over the invisible white service line. Like, Pickleball is not for the faint of heart, okay, but anyway, these were some responses. I'm going to let you girls read some of these, because they're great.

Caitlin Green  37:21  
The one that I really liked was darts. Though, the Reddit user posted darts because it looks harmless till you realize that the real injury is years of beer league practice and a liver that never signed up for this.

Jann Arden  37:31  
Yes, I mean, if you're doing, if you're doing a weekly darts game, you're in trouble. I mean,

Caitlin Green  37:37  
and I think about that in the context of my experiences when I've gone golfing or, like, I've got, I've lawn bowled, I've done a lot of like, you know, sports that are they go hand in hand with alcohol consumption and things like bowling. And I think to myself, yeah, the real danger here is my liver and my headache the next day. These are sports that are more recreational than anything,

Jann Arden  38:00  
but softball leagues, if you're on a part time softball league, and you're not like, an athletic person who's doing stretches and regular workouts, and you're like, oh, that sounds fun. I'm going to do summer softball someone like, literally drills you between the eyes with a softball. You have a concussion. I've seen so many people break their legs. My friend Lisa really broke her legs. Broke her leg. I have to, we'll have to have her come on the show.

Caitlin Green  38:24  
My friend's husband had a ball to the orbital bone, shattered his orbital bone. My other friend tore her knee, like tore some sort of ligament in her knee, and was like, literally walking around on crutches for as a result of, like, beer league

Sarah Burke  38:37  
softball, without a shadow of a doubt, the first month of the season. I pulled my quad every single year because I'm so excited to sprint to first that I'm not ready for it.

Jann Arden  38:49  
It's the truth. I mean, you just you need to have some warm ups. You need to be out there doing your jumping jacks. But everyone thinks softball. I think it's maybe it's semantics. When you call a game softball, you think, what could possibly happen by being hit with a hard, round sphere at 108 miles an hour? There's just lots of falling. I loved it, but I as I got older, I'm like, No, I can't I can't do that. I will hurt myself. I was surprised

Caitlin Green  39:18  
when someone wrote in on the Reddit thread soccer, and they said, historically, soccer has the most knee injuries and career ending injuries per capita of any popular professional sport and high school level. Girls soccer has a concussion rate similar to boys football. Now, again, I haven't fact checked that, so I don't this is like a random user on Reddit, but that's surprising to me. As a person who plays no sports and has no idea about any of this stuff. I was shocked.

Jann Arden  39:41  
Well, I just think every sport is dangerous. I don't care what you're saying. You're talking to a person here that went out is bird feeding a sport. Because when I went out to feed the birds, I fell over a log because I had really big rubber boots on cracks through my ribs. I know I shouldn't be doing any sports. When was that I. I don't know, six years ago

Sarah Burke  40:01  
now, okay, so it's before our podcast. I was gonna say you didn't tell us about that.

Jann Arden  40:05  
Yeah, six or seven years ago, and it was snowing, and I went out with my pajamas on, and I had glasses on that instantly fogged up. It was probably 25 Below. And folks, if I've told you the story 100 times on here, I've told it to you 200 but yeah, I just my bag of nuts went flying like my bucket, so they were everywhere, and so I thought the deer were trying to save me. This is the funny part. I was lying in the snow like do I do an angel? I need to get my breath back, and I need to get in the house. It's 20 below. I have no clothes on. My breasts have never looked better. May I say? They were hard. They were firm. They were pointing north. It was a great I was on my back. It was a very sexy position. But anyway,

Sarah Burke  40:48  
not even a sport, just dangerous, just

Jann Arden  40:51  
as dangerous. And the deers were gathered around me, and I thought, Oh, God, they're here trying to help me. No, they were trying to eat the seeds that I had sprayed all over my body. And they would

Caitlin Green  41:00  
have continued to do so if they were doing it off of your dead body. It off of your dead body,

Jann Arden  41:04  
that's for sure. I'm gonna go through a checklist here. Have you? You guys scuba dived? Use any scuba diving I have done a little bit. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Polo, water polo. No mountain, mountain biking, no. Okay. And figure skating, any? Any recreational skating? Nope, yeah. Reddit person wrote in it looks so beautiful, but getting to the stage is painful. Learning a new jump is 1000s of repeated falls. Okay, let's just move on from that, 1000s of repeating falls on ice. Professional wrestling, which is all staged, may I say, like every move is staged, but they still kill themselves.

Caitlin Green  41:38  
Oh yeah, they still, it's really hard on them. Yeah,

Jann Arden  41:42  
cheerleading. How I've done that. They dropped the girl, they

Sarah Burke  41:44  
threw in the air. You were a cheerleader.

Unknown Speaker  41:47  
I wasn't. No, Jesus, remember, I

Caitlin Green  41:48  
got kicked off the team. Oh, you were, oh, yeah, no, I think I was kicked off of the cheerleading squad, which tracks for me. That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, I hung in there long enough to get the cute uniform, which, let's be honest, is really what I wanted. And I got to, like, go to like, a couple of sporting events and, like, wink at boys, and that's really all I wanted to do. And then they were like, You know what? This? You're kind of, like, a little bit not for this, which was accurate, but yeah, there is, there's no real safety regulations. It's really just like a gaggle of girls in a gym trying to learn choreography and throwing each other around. And we didn't have we weren't like, competitive. This is Canada, after all, but you know, so there weren't any boys on the team throwing us up in the air, but in the US, it's crazy. It's absolutely wild. I've seen some reality shows about cheerleading, and they really hurt themselves.

Jann Arden  42:34  
Yeah, there's broken necks and hips and backs and all kinds of stuff. It's literally like Cirque du Soleil, throwing people in the air, making human pyramids, standing on each other's heads, shoulders, hands. It's crazy. Listen, in our last few minutes here, I have to talk about this because I think it's a terrible story, okay, but a woman divorces her husband for secretly being bald,

Speaker 1  42:57  
so is he wearing a toupee, yeah. It's a story.

Jann Arden  43:01  
Yeah, toupees are typically easy to spot. Caitlin please.

Caitlin Green  43:07  
After she learned the truth, she actually wound up pressing charges against him. I just want to let everyone know what is happening. Oh, we got he took all of his clothes off, came in naked, smacked me on the arm, and said, Mom, look at me.

Jann Arden  43:19  
This is life. Dan did the same thing just before the break. Hi. Oh, nothing, nothing. If you're just joining us, Caitlin is not talking to her husband. She's talking to Will her three year old son, who's got the croup, he's got the croup. He just was a little heated up. He stripped down to get into something much more comfortable, which I am completely behind. Will completely

Sarah Burke  43:51  
good birthday suit, dude.

Caitlin Green  43:52  
It's a great birthday suit. I'm running a nudist colony. I'm running like a children's, I don't know, tuberculosis ward. It's just crazy over here.

Jann Arden  44:01  
Yeah, so this woman, getting back to this story, she sued her husband because she said she was misled and tricked into marrying him, and this was just two years ago. This was 2024 he was a college educated man, good salary, thick, healthy hair, she said. But eventually she learned that none of that was true. He never went to college. Okay, that's kind of a deal breaker. So this just isn't about the hair here. Yeah, he didn't, he didn't go to college. He didn't have a lot of money, and maybe he spent it all in his hair, which they go on to say, which can be really, really expensive, super expensive.

Sarah Burke  44:40  
Oh, yeah. Like, if you're getting hair plugs, that's an investment. So

Jann Arden  44:43  
thoughts, if Dan did not have his own hair and you found out after, after falling in love with him, like, are Is that a deal breaker for you? Are you gonna leave the guy?

Sarah Burke  44:54  
I don't think so. No, okay, I don't think so. But I don't like the idea of, like, you having being lied to. Lied to about it? Yeah, I don't

Caitlin Green  45:03  
like that. I don't think I would, but I do think that the other allegations she's making against him of misleading her would be certainly worth separating from him, because he seems like he's a liar, not just about his hair. Yeah, yeah. I think the hair, they call them hair systems today, and they're actually pretty darn good, so maybe you can't really blame her for not noticing it, but I don't know. I don't like it. I wouldn't like being misled about someone's hair the whole time. It would genuinely make me wonder what else they

Sarah Burke  45:30  
were lying about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It opens the door for another issue. Those are

Caitlin Green  45:33  
a weird thing to have to maintain in secret for the whole time that you're together with someone like this guy is, like, what's he doing, running off to the bathroom and like, regluing something to his scalp. Is he showering with it on? Like, how dedicated

Jann Arden  45:44  
is this? He's I feel sorry for him, and I've It breaks my

Sarah Burke  45:47  
heart that he felt like he had to,

Jann Arden  45:50  
but he had to create this version of himself that he didn't think his authentic self. Like, if you don't love a person because they're bald or they're, I don't know if they got dentures or I don't know. I think we've covered a lot of very unimportant things today, and I feel like these voice notes are going to give us some legitimacy here. We've got lots of voice notes. And as you know, just as a little caveat here, we don't listen to these. We have no idea what we're getting. We don't screen them. Most shows do. They're like, they pick the best of the best. We just let the chips fall where they may.

Speaker 3  46:24  
Hi, ladies, I'm Lynn from Burlington, and you asked how we're coping. So when writing and running haven't worked for me, I've been shopping from Canadian businesses. So I found the most amazing soap from Pei and beef tallow from Alberta and salt from Vancouver Island. And when shopping isn't in the budget, I've asked my local library to order Canadian books, and then after I've read them, I leave a review. And I think, whether we're, you know, buying Canadian skin products or books, reviews help more people see them, and then, you know, we bring feel good ourselves and bring more dollars into the country. That is how I've been coping. Thank you very much for starting the conversation.

Jann Arden  47:09  
Lynn, thank you. Thank you that you're so right. Like it's the little things. Imagine 41 million people doing little things. It's just massive. It just rolls into something extraordinary. Thank you so much for your note. Appreciate it so much.

Speaker 4  47:21  
Hello, Jan, Sarah and Caitlin, Karen from Halifax here leaving a note read to activities distractions that help me to get rid of the tumultuous world chaos. News we are all living through just for a little lovely respite. Jen and her friend Tiffany Pratt are both so artistic in music and art forms. Me, not quite so much, but I love crafting with my five year old granddaughter, Nora. I keep all our empty egg cartons, toilet paper rolls, etc, and you should see what we can create with Dollar Store sparkly tape stickers, markers, paper and even rainbow colored pipe cleaners and, of course, Barkley blue I call Nora up for your mom and ask for a craft play date, and we craft our hearts away. I feel sorry for her mom and dad, as she always wants to take our creations home. Such a sweet, fun time with many snacks. Of course, my second activity is as an only Jen book bag member, I will get up early in the quiet mornings, sip on that lovely first morning coffee in a Fave chair and read or listen via audible to our current book. Big choice. It is the one light item in our monthly budget I can't do without love this podcast and the only Jann community as always. Thanks for the devoted, fun and insightful content you all do. Steady on everyone. Oh, in addition, quickly read the poop discussions, I found a book for Nora stock called I broke my butt by Don McClellan for her age group. That is hysterical. Take care. Hugs to all. Bye, bye.

Caitlin Green  48:51  
Thank you, Karen, I broke my butt, as she said, I broke my butt, I kid you not. Will went into the bathroom and announced to me that he needed me to help him wipe his butt in tandem.

Sarah Burke  49:00  
Well, we have more voice notes if you need to go do that.

Unknown Speaker  49:02  
Okay, please hold Okay, the

Jann Arden  49:04  
Jann Arden bomb cast.

Speaker 5  49:07  
Hi, Jen Caitlin and Sarah. This is Marcia from Edmonton. Just wanted to get in on the discussion about you with all the information about the bad things going on in the world. And I have to admit, I haven't watched TV news for over three years. I would rather just not know about a lot of what's going on, if it is something significant. I usually hear about it through the people who live where I do seniors launch. But personally, I just found I find it all too depressing, and that idiot that is down south, I totally agree with you, Jan, and they got to get rid of him somehow, but I know he's going to go kicking and screaming, and we also have to get rid of our own Premier, she's evil. But anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I really enjoy listening to your podcast. I look forward to it every week. You're the only podcast I actually listen to, to be perfectly honest, and it's because of you, Jan, I've been a fan of yours for quite a few years now. I really enjoy your music. I love listening to your stories, and I love listening to all three of you on the podcast. You've had some great guests. I really enjoyed Rosie O'Donnell and Adrian Arsenal was actually quite good as well. Marilyn Dennis is always fun. But anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I really enjoy your podcast.

Sarah Burke  50:31  
I get it. I totally get it. And I think everyone deals with incoming stuff in their own way. You know, whatever works for you. If you want to know a little bit, it's unavoidable. My mom used to say bad news will find you no matter where you are. And I think, yeah, you know, even when she grew up on a farm way up in northern Alberta, they didn't even have a landline in the house, you know, in the in the in the 30s, but they just depended on somebody hopping in a car or driving a horse over and saying, Yeah, Phil lost his arm on the Thrasher, taking him into Anna's fail to get it fixed. And, you know, she said, the bad news would always find you. You always knew what was and if it was, if it warranted passing along. So anyway, yeah, I think we even are very aware of that on our show. Hey, Sarah. Like just, yeah, we have to find the balance. Sometimes we talk about it too much. The only thing I will say about like not watching the news or turning things off completely, or retreating completely, which I kind of mentioned on the podcast last week, is like, just don't forget about connection, right? Like, I'm glad you have your community there, like you were saying, you still learn about things in your community, but disconnecting completely can also be a detriment and make you feel even more isolated. So so that's all our voice notes for this week. Thanks, guys. And one thing that we like, we have been sort of wading through, I would say all three of us, is like how to deal with all the bad news in the world right now. So yeah, we love hearing about how you guys are doing all of that, but we are going to get into some more fun on Patreon. I actually want to cover a nice fan encounter. A nice fan encounter, okay, we love that. You sort of owe us an update on how it went, meeting the 22 people in the family that you thought was going to be three or four

Jann Arden  52:15  
people, 22 relatives. Yes.

Caitlin Green  52:18  
Full update, Sarah, do you have anything to share any updates on the situation with certain former friends?

Sarah Burke  52:26  
No, not really. Yeah, things are, things are just quiet there. But if you haven't listened to the Patreon from last week, that'll get you caught up. If you're like, what is Caitlin talking about?

Caitlin Green  52:35  
There's just some little drama that happened as a result of your trip. And then we'll leave it

Sarah Burke  52:39  
at that. But yeah, five bucks to you know, get an extra episode from Us Weekly, and we've now announced our book bag date. So for next Wednesday, we're just looking for you guys to vote on the time. And yeah, we're going to be announcing our new book next week as well. So that's my turn, that it's my turn. $7 if you want to be part of our monthly book discussions, which has been really fun. And like Karen from Halifax said, it's a really nice only Jan's community.

Caitlin Green  53:07  
It's such a nice community of people, like I said before one one other user makes handmade bookmarks. She did Christmas ornaments for people like, it really is the nicest people, and it is a nice place to park your brain for a little while that isn't involved in, like, the doom and gloom of the world. So come on over at seven bucks a month,

Unknown Speaker  53:22  
come on over for

Jann Arden  53:24  
$7 and have a great time with us. Okay, well, that's our show for the day. Yeah, Patreon is going to be interesting. Dan might make another appearance. You know, might make an appearance. Definitely will

Unknown Speaker  53:36  
again. Yeah, well, will. How was his bum?

Jann Arden  53:39  
That was the bum. Wiping bum wiping bum was great.

Caitlin Green  53:41  
He had a great poop, in case anyone was wondering. And now he's watching Monsters Inc.

Jann Arden  53:46  
That's our show for today. I'm gonna say farewell from Caitlin green, Sarah Burke and myself. We'll see you next time too. Do you? Do you?