The Blue Jays in the World Series vs. Halloween

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Hello, hello, hello, gracious. Good afternoon, good evening, good morning, wherever you find yourself in the world. I am Jann Arden. This is the Jann Arden podcast. I am here, as always, with Caitlin green and Sarah Burke. They are in their Toronto homes. I am in Calgary, Alberta, spring bank, whatever you want to call it, and what a whirlwind it has been this last few weeks. Girls, I can't even tell you there's baseball stuff to talk about, because I know all of Canada, not just Toronto, not just Ontario, but all of Canada is kind of like when you have a Canadian team in something as big as the World Series, Canada, at least, sits down and takes notes. So I let the girls talk about that. So what's going on? What has made you happy this week? What is, what is things that are bringing you joy? Let's start with that, because I feel happy today.

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I think all Canada feels happy like the Jays didn't win their most recent game, but just like you said, it's Canada's only major league baseball team, and having them in the World Series is so, so exciting. I also feel like a large portion of us baseball fans are cheering for the Jays because the Dodgers, as it turns out, are a pretty reviled team. Huh? Why is that? I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know the like history of all the rivalries, but

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our rivalry with like the Yankees would be much bigger. But these teams are special to play in that we only usually see them once a season, right? For three game series. Same with the mariners, right? We just finished that series. I think part of the current rivalry with LA is, remember the whole Shohei Ohtani thing where he was rumored to be signing with the Jays. He was in Toronto. There were spottings of him. John Schneider set him up with Blue Jays gear. His dog has a blue jays outfit. Then he didn't sign, and now we face him in the goddamn world series five,

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one, yeah. Anyway, I think it's all just kind of nerves. I think it's first date nerves of facing each other. And I think people are not really, like, settled in. I think the scores are going to go down. I don't think it's that's indicative of where we're going. I think we're literally going to have one, zero and two one. This is what I'm thinking.

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To be fair, the pitcher that we faced in game two is so incredible. Pitched a complete game. He never got taken out. So, like, this is the type of athlete that comes around once in an era. And, yeah, you got to even be cheering for that guy, even though he's on the opposite team. I'm not sure.

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So, because normally they swap those normally they swap those guys out quite often, don't they? Like, you can sometimes get three, four pictures and pictures in a game.

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Yeah, like fifth inning. It's not fifth inning, sixth, sixth inning, if they're having a really good game. But yeah, in this case, it's and our pitching has been really good, which is something like, the Jays have struggled with a lot in the past. So it's just like we're facing the best of the best.

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Yeah, I like that. You girls are such big Jays fans. Like, I'm kind of indifferent. I'm excited for them. And I think it the one baseball I've been baseball game I've been to in my life was super fun. It was really fun. And I played ball as a kid. When you go to a small country school and there's 40 kids in your class, you sign up for every extramural thing that you can possibly do. So I played hockey, I played volleyball, I played badminton, and I played softball, and I really loved it because it kept me, you know, busy,

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yeah, and being an elder millennial in Toronto, like you're, you grew up watching them win the 9293 World Series. And so I think there's a whole generation of real baseball fans in our age group. And also, I'll say we were in so we were in New York for game one and Game Two and game one, we had friends last minute come up to see the first game and get a box, and we were in New York, so we didn't get to go. So we otherwise would have been at Game one, the like 11 to four or whatever the score ended up being, games that we missed out. But, I mean, we were in New York, so I wasn't going to complain, but it was funny, because we're running through the streets of New York, trying to find a place to watch it. So we settle on sitting outside. There are all these sports bars, and they have so much they have such a better scope on outdoor dining in New York City. They really nail this. So we're sitting at a picnic table. I'm having a cider, Kyle's having a beer, and slowly people start settling into tables and watching the game outside. And we wound up one table over from a couple who were from Toronto and had recently moved to New York. They're waiting for friends who are also from Toronto to land and arrive. So we ended up like, you kind of end up watching the game with Canadians or with Jay's fans, even when you're in New York City, which was

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really fun. I was really heartbroken to not be watching the game with my family this weekend. But I did have my girlfriends, high school girlfriends, up at the cottage. My dad started this new superstition with this, like, pair of Jay socks. And so when we won, I was like, you cannot wash those. And my mom was like, No, we're not washing those. So the socks are no longer good luck for whatever reason, because obviously game two. But it was so funny on Friday night, I was trying to explain it to my one girlfriend who was up at the cottage first. And so I'm like, a Grand Slam is when you. Got the bases loaded, so she was sitting there yelling at the TV, grand salami. So funny. It is really fun watching with a group of people. And tonight, poor Steve, it's just gonna be Stevie and I, and she's gonna be frightened every time I yell at the TV. This is what happens.

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So, yeah, you're listening to us record this on a Tuesday, Monday, sorry, and you're not going to hear this till Friday, so we're already going to know what's happening. There'll be two other games played this week in the World Series, so we are going to be well on our way to what's happening.

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I had one other question for both of you, because by the time our new episode is out, it's it's Halloween, guys, oh yeah, so will and Halloween, and what do Icelandic people do for Halloween? Two burning questions I've had, they do Halloween? They do Halloween?

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Yeah, Iceland feels spooky based on the lava fields and whatnot, and just sort of like a treeless Little Rock. So like, do they do? Do they have like elves? Do like elves come out? I know elves are a big thing.

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Don't know, but I'll find out. But they definitely do Halloween. Trolls are big. Trolls are very, very big. And, yeah, it's, it's the Sagas, like the stories from 800 years ago. Yeah, spooky

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as shit. Do me a favor. Text sort us right now and be like, the girls want to know what the kids are going for for Halloween. Just while we're setting up Caitlin here, yeah,

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so the elves in Iceland. I remember this because there was a documentary that I didn't actually see about this, but it was they're called the now I'm going to I don't know the pronunciation exactly, but the translation in English is hidden people, and they are mythical beings that are deeply woven into Icelandic folklore and culture, to such an extent that if somebody in a small town reports that they see one of these who do, folk like hidden people, that they'll report it, and they have to build roads around wherever that sighting was. So if they go to say, hey, we're going to cut a highway through here, and someone's like, No, I saw an elf in that cave last year, then they reroute the whole highway.

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That is not untrue, yeah. So

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they put some real respect onto elves over there. So anyways, okay, Will is going as Spider Man this year. Oh, they dress up a daycare. And so you need two costumes, because the daycare costume gets destroyed. Like last year, he went in as a little fireman to daycare, and then the whole day they paint pumpkins. So he comes back just looking like, you know, Jackson Pollock and and then we've got to get him out of that, and then he goes as a pumpkin for trick or treating. So I have to figure out what his daycare costume is, because his trick or treating evening costume will be Spider Man, and we'll go trick or treating with his little friend Jack, but also Sarah, that might be a Jay's game night. Oh, boy. So there is a whole thing here. Sorry. Kyle is across from me. Yeah, hi, Kyle. I want to say the two times that he's popped his head over or shown me his phone to tell me a fact, have been about baseball. He previously Thank you, Kyle, yes. He just looked over and goes, yes, it could be Friday, because our friends from Detroit, who got the box for the game for game one have already said they might try to get a box if the Jays come back to please invite me. Please invite me. Well, so we have to go, but if it's Halloween, then we have to go get will trick or treated, then haul our butts down there.

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If I can be, I can fill in for Caitlin. If you can be, Caitlin to show up with a short wig on, hello.

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Sort of his daughter. It's changing day by day. What the kids want to be, yeah, okay, her daughter, her daughter wants to be a deadly octopus. She says, I have no idea what that is referring to. Love that for her, yeah, a deadly octopus, which I think is great, quite frightening.

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Oh, a blue ringed octopus. That's the one. That's the deadly one. So she would need to be a blue ringed octopus. Okay, she

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the three dots are going, okay? I just, I was either the devil every year, because we had a red onesie, okay? And we just, we each got to be that one year. And this is terrible. But my mom, we had a like a Mexican we had a Mexican Sombrero, and my mom would literally draw a mustache on my brother and put him in that and send him out with a pillow case like different generation and I, many years, just went with a green garbage bag with my arm sticking through it. How about you're a vegetable? Oh, thank you, mom. This is a fantastic outfit. We were in the country. Nobody gave a shit, and plus, I got to be dry. Well,

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because everyone I remember, I think we've talked about this on the show before, but I've definitely heard this disgust that back in the day, it was really common to send your daughter as a street walker, like in past generations, they would just give a little girl high heels and some red lipstick and a purse, and they'd give them an unlit cigarette, and they'd be like, you're a fancy don't let me down.

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Lady Of The Night,

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her son wants to be a K Pop demon hunter pop star. I've heard a lot of that one, but make it zombie, as in, very dead, preferably something impaling his head.

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Here's me and my sister as a flower and Mickey or Minnie Mouse. That's very

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cute.

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I have a few what? Other. One do I have here? I was a cat, like so many times. Oh, here's the cat and the bride.

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And a bride. Oh, my gosh, a little tiny bride.

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You went as a bride. My sister was the bride.

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Obviously, this was my famous, iconic princess costume right here. And I want to say that I lost to someone who had a far worse costume than me at school that day, and I still feel upset

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about it anyway. Moving on. You were in New York. Caitlin, I want to hear a little bit about that. Why you went, what you did, what you ate, if you had any, you know, anything special to report? Did you see any pickpockets, burglaries, any of that type of stuff in New York City?

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No, I left feeling, I mean, thankfully, I left feeling as though New York is the friendliest city in the world, and everyone there is incredibly social. I couldn't believe how chatty people are. I think it is a in my experience, just this past weekend, it seemed like such a more welcoming, social city than Toronto, because, oh, the streets are full. Obviously there's, you know, millions more people, but there's, like I said, lots of people going to taverns, and because they're all so busy, like restaurants, there are so busy, bars are so busy. And you wait, you really get in, put your name on a list, you're referred over to the bar, and you stand around other people who are waiting for their tables, and you just wind up striking conversations up with people in line, you wind up just like hanging out together at the bar. And so that was one of the big takeaways for me from this weekend in New York, was that it is a really lively, fun city, and people are out, they're having a great time, and they're down to chat. So yeah, I loved it. I love that city so much. And the last time we were there, obviously I spent the whole time sick in bed. So this was throwing up. Remember, which was throwing up? I got my nor walk while I was there. Horrible, truly, I mean, lost 11 pounds in three days. This time, it was great. We went to Minetta tavern. Like if you're going to New York City, please feel free to DM me. I will literally give you recommendations. And because Kyle goes twice a year and has for the last 15 years for work, he's a real expert. And because he has clients there, so they take him to all the hot spots, and then he can build up his own expertise. So we did a great place called Minetta tavern. We went to the iconic jazz bar inside the Carlisle hotel called Bemelmans. Sat at the bar. You have dinner and drinks, you're chatting with everybody. We went to an amazing Omakase restaurant, which is like a fixed Japanese menu, and you just sit at the counter and they just serve you whatever is freshest. That day that was in Brooklyn, saw some friends who live in Brooklyn,

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Lorelei, I'm babysitting Chris's dog, so I have two barking dogs today. Are Laura friends very much. So, oh, good. But Laura Laura does a lot of policing. There's, there's a lot of there's a lot of reprimanding that goes on. It's pretty funny because, you know, it's a reprimand. It's like, you can tell it's such a crazy tone. And poppy will, like, drop a toy in front of her and be like, Okay, let's do this. And Laura's just like, Dick,

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no, don't do this. So I wish

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I could speak dog, because there's definitely language going on. Anyway, yeah, I love New York City. And you're right, you know, for a city that size, I think people often think, Oh, it's so busy and so impersonal, and there's millions of them, and the Manhattan Island is So, you know, compact and it's honking and driving, I find it incredibly friendly. I think their sense of community, you know, every three blocks, you're entering into a whole new vibe in New York City. You can pick any direction and walk it, and you are in what a city should look like, which is this melting pot of ethnicity and culture and food, and you see why it works the way it does, and it's because of new Americans. I just heard this Ronald Reagan quote from a clip that was posted on social media a few days ago, and it was so inspiring. And he said, you know, anyone that comes to America and makes a home here, they're American. They are American people. And he talked about, that's what made the country so strong and so diverse, was culture, was language, was, you know, all the racists and the bigots and the wackos that go to a Chinese food restaurant on New Year's Eve, that go and have any kind of, you know, pizza that is Italian, and, like, I just, it's all the things that the it's, it's the antithesis of what the vibe is coming out down there right now. But if you haven't visited, go,

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their election is coming up for their mayor and their governor. And as we know, like Zoran Mamdani is, like, this massively successful candidate down there. And he just did, I think last night, he had a big event with Alexandra, Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders. So there is a real feeling of excitement around him as a candidate, and around his messaging being really like, antithetical to Donald Trump and some of the stuff we're seeing with Maga. So that was, I saw lots of Zoran signs. You saw him on the news all. All the time. Like, people were talking about that a lot. You overheard a lot of conversations about it. And another thing I noticed too, that was really, like, I guess just something I get a kick out of every time, is that the hospitality there is great. Like, I found that it's just sort of, there's a level of service, there's a level of care, and, like, creating a vibe everywhere you go, from the playlist to, you know, the decor. Like, it's just a really, it's a world class

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city. Where did you stay? Like, area wise, and, oh, the lower on the side, the

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hotel is called Nine orchard. Camera,

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so Gossip Girl, and you were talking about potentially going Broadway or comedy, did you do any of those things?

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We didn't. Okay, okay. She went to lots of great bars, great went lots of great bars and restaurants. Mostly we just walked, like I found, like we walked, you know, we walked over to Brooklyn. We walked across the Manhattan Bridge one day, like we it was just, it was really just about kind of walking around the city and enjoying ourselves and popping in here and popping in there, and a little bit of shopping. The hotel was great. Jane, you would love this feature too. As a musician, every room has its own sound system. And when you walk in, you turn as beautiful, big speakers like Hi Fi, gorgeous quality sound. And you walk in and they you can plug your own phone in, which is fine. Everyone's used to connecting Bluetooth, but they have in hotel, almost like radio stations, five different channels. You turn the little knob, and it's music playing, 24/7, and it's perfectly curated. And one could be classical, one could be jazz, one could be soul, one could be more modern. But I was like, this is a feature that I would pick in a hotel over a TV any day of the week.

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I like, Oh, I love that. I think people are watching less and less television, sort of like terrestrial television, and you know, streaming is where it's at. I keep waiting for them to have like that more available in hotel rooms. Caitlin is, you know, the going on, taking a screenshot of the of the the QR code, and trying to hook your phone up to play Netflix in a in a hotel room, it's just like, Oh, my God, this is too much of a hassle. I'm not even going to watch it. So I'd be very much for tuning into a radio and having music, because I very, very seldom have a TV on in a hotel room. Yeah, and it's nice.

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I got such a different like, experience of New York. I used to go and stay in hotels because Sirius XM, HQ was right there. But my cousin, like a cousin that's very close in age, one year apart, has lived in New York City for the longest time now. She's married and lives in the burbs, but like, five years back, I went and stayed with her, and I got that experience of being in a tiny New York apartment. We had no space to ourselves, but did the whole thing, waiting, waiting in line for the Broadway, like, right when the doors open, to try and get the ticket last minute. And that whole, like, very New York experience, I really enjoyed that better than staying in a hotel, like feeling like a New Yorker. It was super fun anyway, Murdoch Mysteries. Yes, want to hear about Murdoch Mysteries? No,

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it's interesting. I think I was literally the only creative person in Canada, actor or otherwise, that hadn't been on Murdoch Mysteries 19 seasons. I'm sure they will do another season after this. It's wildly popular internationally. I think they're in almost 100 countries. I might be making that up, but I'm pretty sure that is the truth. Janet passe on is a is a great guy. Spoke to him a couple of times on set. But period pieces, I had three different very ornate outfits, a wig, you know, they have the most incredible costume department. A lot of the stuff is is made, you know, in department, but you walk in there and it looks like it's unbelievable the amount of clothes that they have stockpiled over the last 20 years. But I play a woman named Pippa Pierson. She's not very nice. I can't say much more about that, but I had, I had a great time. I fly back tomorrow, which is Tuesday, I tape all day, Wednesday, and then I fly back here on Thursday. So a bit of flying, but they were nice enough to bring me home. But it's like being in 1912 you know, you you walk back in time, the sets are immaculately decorated. It's just really, really, unbelievably fascinating, and everyone's really supportive, yeah, so it's fun doing things that I really don't know how to do. I cannot stress how important it is just to try things that you're unsure of, and everyone's always so willing to help you and to help with lines and anyway, I want to completely switch gears just for a second to give you just a glimpse into the absurdity. So there was a provincial election here last week. You

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I anyway election in Cochrane last week, where my friend Lisa works, they did not re elect the mayor of eight years who's a fantastic guy, you know, very liberal, very forward thinking, who believed in all the right things, and they've elected a very far right group of individuals. And the first thing on their agenda, the first thing that seemed very, very important to them, that was just something that Cochrane really needed to do, was get rid of the rainbow sidewalks, the rainbow little crosswalks. This was the first. First thing on their agenda that they wanted to bring into into light that they no longer felt that was a look that Cochrane should be expressing. And I just thought, you fucking assholes. So to you people in Cochrane that had been elected, you fucking assholes. I hope it's not a reflection of the entire city of Cochrane. It was a low voter turnout. So apathy, once again, folks, doesn't get anywhere. So in my heart of hearts, I do not believe that that is the overall vibe of the people that live in that community. Although Alberta is quite right wing, it's quite Maga here. Because of the low voter turnout. I think Maga people in general, the right wing in general, are quite organized, and they make a point of going out and voting, whereas, you know, left wing people, or centralists, sit on their hands and they expect other people to do the lifting for them. So anyway, pain in the ass and it's

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such a strange thing to prioritize. Like, I mean, it's, it's obvious, and it's messaging I just am like, is this it feels like an epic waste

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health care or No, no, it's, it's literally making sure that people understand that there are lesser and greater people, and that not all people are equal, and that diversity is not welcome. And you know, and people who think they're safe from that. So when you go after a community like the LGBTQ plus community, the trans community, that's the low hanging fruit, they can get away with low key. Oh, we're not racist, we're not homophobic, we want to be equal to the whole community. That's why these people don't get a special rainbow, then we have to give straight people a rainbow. Are you fucking tit heads like, fuck off. Anyway. I feel for my friend, Lisa. You know, she she's back at work. She's back at work. She beat cancer. Has been fighting cancer for eight months. She's cancer free. You know, she's back in there. You know, wielding, you know, whatever energy and power she can summon. But she said, I am up against some, really, some people who are not good people, and I can say that with utmost certainty, they're just they're misinformed, and they don't understand what equality and what community is. They don't understand the word community, that word should never come out of their mouths because they don't know what it is. So you wait and see what happens in that community. I think a lot of environmental things are going to go out the shitter. I think they're going to just make concessions for people who have money. You know, for a long time there was a rich group of people in Cochrane that said, we are rich, you know, we will pay more to get more water. There is no fucking water. There's no more water. We have a water license, but we can't fucking create water out of the abyss. And these rich people out there were going, Yeah, but we pay more taxes and we should get more water. It really is. You know, there's people that phone in to the community and say, Yeah, can you do something about the children's laughter in the park. Literally, Lisa's Department got phone calls from this woman who repeatedly called and said, I did not move here to hear children's laughter. Oh, fuck. I'm telling you, it is an unbelievable state in which the people find themselves in. These are the same people that build pickleball courts that literally piss off entire cities, but the words children's laughter really made me this

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reminded me. Have you guys seen the I think I shared the trailer because it honestly stopped me in my tracks. It took my breath away. The documentary trailer for this movie called perfect neighbor was so powerful, and it's the true story of a woman in a neighborhood somewhere in Florida, I forget the county, and the entire documentary is made from police camera footage and from security camera footage. It's not sort of filmed. It's all pieced together, and it is just, it's like breaking Netflix right now. People are obsessed with it, and it's all about a woman, Jan, who is exactly like that. She begins to complain about children playing on the street, and she is an older white woman in a mixed ethnicity community, and she's predominantly complaining about black children, black children playing in the streets and playing and just basically having a good time, and a violent crime is committed. It's the center central piece of this documentary, and it's the same people. It's like, you know, this collection of angry, disenfranchised people who are so mentally unwell that they are irritated by the sound of children playing and a baby on a plane or whatever it is.

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I'm not excited about anything having to do with children, but I quite like the sound of children's laughter. It's

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truly the sound of life, like, if that's yeah,

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what does that say about your life? When that is a legitimate thing? And then there was another woman who, and this is once again, another white, cis woman, who phoned in and said that she wanted a tree removed because it was blocking her root her view of the river. And this is a. 100 year old, something or other tree that you know is, you know, one of the grandmothers of the community that has been standing in that spot for a century, and she just was so pissed off that the community had the audacity to decline her her request to have a tree removed that was blocking her view. And I just think, you know people, where the fuck are you? Where? Where are you? Inside your bodies, they're so, you know what? But it's, it's absolute stupidity as well. And this unwellness that has either come from being under a lot of pressure or has lost their jobs, like, God knows what happens to people to make them like that. It's almost like, instead of asking the question, how are you? Hey, how are you? It's the question should be, what happened to you, what happened to

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you. So obviously I was not in Calgary, and we released the Calgary Live episode last week, so I very much enjoyed the part about your neighbor mark and what right? Because the point being made there is just you can have opposite beliefs and still find common respect for each other. And, you know, Nenshi was talking about, we need to, you know, work with, listen to our neighbors. And this goes back to probably, I think, what some of this Netflix documentary uncovers as well, right? Like we are all in our neighborhoods, our communities, and we have to find ways to not let things like a tree or children's laughter be the biggest problem. There are much bigger fish to fry.

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But where have we gotten to, really, that we seem to think there isn't us and them, and that the planet has no say in what happens to her, and that commerce and capitalism always trumps, you know, the fish and the birds and the deer is trying to make a way. It's just, it's such an unbelievable selfishness, and it comes from such a lack of self esteem, and it comes from such a lack of confidence in oneself and humility, to think that you have to be standing on top of somebody else to feel empowered, and that's what right wing politics is. They have to have people underneath them to make them feel like they matter and that I'm bigger than you, I'm smarter than you, and it really does come from a lack of education and a lack of of knowledge. I think it's like not knowing the world, like seeing just these little snippets of of their lives, and then they surround themselves in these echo chambers, and I don't even know if they have their own opinions about things. I think they just repeat shit anyway. We will see what happens in Cochrane. I'm sorry for you guys there. It's a great community. It's a great area. It's a beautiful little town, and it was run by some really legitimately caring people. They just want to go in there and flatten everything. So we'll see what happens. A lot

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of people are saying that there's like, the, you know, the New York mayoral election could be kind of like a hopeful moment, if you've been feeling a little bit like, oh God, the news is so dark and like, every politician is just here to give more tax cuts for billionaires, and his messaging has been like, New York is not for sale. I was pretty emboldened by the number of signs for him. I saw the number of conversations I overheard about him and his candidacy. So maybe even though it's not in Canada, like sometimes these things can be a little bit contagious, like excitement and momentum can be contagious. So I don't know. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of like, I'm kind of hoping, I'm interested to see what happens there. What is airport divorce? So it is when a couple who maybe notices that they have friction when they travel together in an airport decide that they're going to part ways in the airport and then rejoin at their gate. So you intentionally part ways after passing through airport security, and then you reunite at your gate, refreshed and ready to fly together. And they're just saying that this is because there's a lot of added stress when you go through the airport trying to make it there on time. What's your route? Who's packed, what who's holding the passes? Do you have the passport? I mean, then you factor in traveling with kids, so they're like, you get divorced in the airport for a period

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of time. I feel like this means that someone is dealing with the kids and someone is not and has a free pass. Well, I was

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just gonna say this wouldn't work for me. I mean, I don't like this idea anyways, but I don't find traveling with Kyle stressful. I actually think it's relaxing. I prefer to travel like we prefer to travel together than to travel separately, but, but we also are very aligned, like we have nexus, like we prioritize how to pack and we know how to do everything, and so we're very similar in that way. But I could see that, and I know friends where they disagree on when even to arrive at the airport, and the disagreements sort of Snowball from there. One person is anxious, so they want to get there two hours before, one person wants to cut it a little bit closer, so they don't have to spend so much time in the airport, and you can imagine that that difference then spills out into how they pack. You brought too many liquids and gels. One person is having their luggage pulled apart by security. The other person has already, you know, gone through and is waiting for me, yeah, for me, lots of the weight for me, lots of those things. So I just think it's interesting, if you have different travel styles, maybe you'd want to consider this.

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I wish we got the chance to travel together so we could have, like, looked at the situation between the two of us even, because I feel like, with my ADHD, you would have been like, Oh, see you at the gate.

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I've but if you have nexus, and you travel with friends who don't, I'm a See you at the gate, person I

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have, I have nexus. Yeah, I have nexus. I am also, like, notorious for arriving, like, just at the last moment I need to, because of Nexus and with the carry on, like, you might have been a little earlier than me. Maybe I do, like,

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No, I'm always early. I'm there 90 minutes early on a domestic flight. I just

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anything go wrong, 90 to an hour, I'd say an hour for

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me is cutting it. A lot of gates shut off, but if you've been lucky, I mean, we're just a carry on, yeah, just to carry on. I mean, that's, that's, that's cool. I just can't then I travel

30:49  
so freaking much. The dog you've got, there's other things other

30:53  
when I got off the plane from Toronto, night before last, I got out and I thought it was a bad sign. Well, it kind of was a bad sign. Soon as I got out, there was a concierge waiting for me, because I'm super elite, and it's just because I fly so damn much. They're like, Miss Richards, I'm like, yes, your bag didn't make it. We are extremely sorry. Please come with me. No, and they filled out. They had everything filled out. We just need a little more information. We will. You're a priority. You'll have your bag here. And I kind of felt bad. I thought, I wish everybody got this. Yeah, I wish everyone who was missing a bag. I don't need that kind of treatment. I'm on my own, and I had a couple of days. I knew I'd get my bag eventually, and when it didn't show up, I would have gone up to the counter and reported, as I've done a dozen times in the last probably 10 years. You know, who really needs that? A family, a mom traveling with her baby, with a baby carrier, a bag full of shit. Her and her husband weren't allowed to sit together in the plane because something was fucked up. You know, I think airlines as much as these loyalty programs. You know, I thought about it afterwards, and I thought, you know, that's really nice, but I am not the person who needs this, that person needs it, or someone that's not sure where to go. I don't know. I was uncomfortable with it, yeah. And some people think, Oh, I deserve that. I am on the other side of the tracks with that. I'm just like, Oh God, please, please rethink how we help people. Airlines need to have a better reputation because it didn't land.

32:34  
You guys, the the West jets gonna start charging for recline, recline your seat. It's like, oh my god. Guys like, do a better budget for the year. That doesn't need to come from me.

32:45  
WestJet has been roasted for years, because ever since private equity bought WestJet, you there's been a, like, a in parallel, decline in customer service. So good, satisfied, exactly. But that's because it was, you know, when the via said, like, we're all owners. That was their whole thing back in the day. Now it's not. And you can, pretty much like, track the decline of any business or industry the second private equity is involved. And so I will like, I mean, Air Canada, I think they do like, they obviously get a lot of complaints as well, but my experience, at least, with with them recently, has been pretty good.

33:21  
Air Canada is great. It's a great airline, yeah, and the more I travel, I'll tell you, if you fly on an Air Canada flight, it is exponentially better than 90% of the airlines in the sky, and they are consistently voted airline OF THE YEAR internationally, consistently, yes, they are voted one of the number and I mean Singapore, I mean everything. I flew Singapore to Fiji to do a job last year. Not good. Their ads look so wonderful. You know, their aircrafts are kind of antiquated. The seats, all of them just need to be restuffed like an old teddy bear. They just needed stuffing in them. They were basically filled with farts and disappointment. That's what those seats were filled with farts and misplaced. But I'm just saying Air Canada is a really exceptional airline, and I'm not trying to sound petty. Oh yeah, you get special service and then you shit on them. That's not it at all. It's an un comfortable feeling for me that I had someone walk me down to the baggage. I would have figured it out on my own. Anyhow, your

34:23  
elite status is also from how much you fly, to be fair, right?

34:27  
It's super elite, yeah, so it's 200,000 kilometers a year.

34:32  
Yeah, they need you like, you know, that's why there's something like that. People like, you know, people who travel, as frankly as you do, keep those, keep those airlines operating.

34:41  
I would like to thank KLM for the extra mortgage payment I got for when my flight was delayed on the way back from Italy, Paris to Toronto. Yeah, yeah, I got like, over $1,000 back.

34:55  
Yeah, that's amazing. My Aeroplan, okay, super elite status members must achieve a. 125,000 status qualifying credits in a benefit year. There we go. Yeah, so 125k or more, I mean, and even, like, even if you're 50k status, they do, like, they, you know, they kind of go above and beyond. And most of these airlines and most even hotel chains, they really rely on their frequent travelers. And so I think that's why they try to offer up all of these sort of, like member benefits and status. And there are people who are such status chasers, Jan, you genuinely fly this much for work, but some people, they fly a little bit for work, but they'll tack on, like, they'll add on a round trip flight somewhere that they don't even need to do. They'll add on a leg to their trip, because they know that the extra miles will gain them extra status.

35:41  
And Chris does a trip to Britain. Yeah, he'll fly to London and back if he's short,

35:45  
yeah, because you because, if you travel so much and you spend so much of your life on the road, you know the benefits to these perks, whether that's you know, the lounge access, the upgrades, the like you said, if you they lose your bag, like, so I don't know, for people who spend, like, their whole life on the road, I can see why the airlines like try to do it, but I agree with you. I do think you know people who have physical disabilities and families traveling with young children, I think that they have fallen, fallen a little too low in the pecking order, because they'll like horror stories from those two camps that I see on social are are noteworthy, and I think it's really bad press, because those stories do go viral. When you hear someone complaining about being separated from their child on a plane because of seat issues, when you hear about someone's wheelchair being damaged, those types of things really go viral. And I think airlines do need to be more aware of that like it is. It's an issue. But we flew Air Canada this weekend, and like I did, really like it. I like their lounge. I love the United lounge. Newark airport just got renovated. I was really impressed with the

36:41  
airport. What about did you have another 23 answer?

36:45  
Oh, no, I didn't. I didn't. I only had a I had a regular sized beer at the airport both times. But when you said 23 ounces, it did make me think of one thing I treated myself to at the airport on my way out of the city was a dunk a latte. And it is essentially a Dunkin Donuts iced latte that is, like, sounds really good. It's, it's so good. And a medium. I asked for a meeting. They're like, what size you want? I was like a medium, and I got what would normally to me be an XL, and it's like a, it's like a, it's, I don't know, it's almost like a coffee milkshake. It's so friggin

37:19  
delicious. My blood sugar spiking, just thinking about it. Well, it is sweet. But then I looked

37:24  
at the calories, and for the size of the drink, I thought they would have been higher, because they put the calories front and center on most of their menu items now. And I think it was only 210 calories. It wasn't egregious. Oh, that's not terrible. No, terrible. So anyways, delicious. If you're into that type of a drink, I highly recommend the Dunkle latte that was my 23 ounces this time.

37:40  
Okay, yeah, I'm all for trying a Dunkin Donuts latte. And I bet you they could do that in oat milk as

37:48  
well. They do all the milks. They have all the milks and Jann you would have loved this. In New York, we went to a place called happier grocery it's sort of the Erewhon of Manhattan. So think of a fancy, but very health forward, very like fancy, nice grocery store. So we just go into peruse Jann the coconut yogurt section, the vegan section, the vegetarian food section was like nothing I've ever seen. I'm going to text you a photo. I took a photo of this, and I meant to send it to you. The ice cream brand is called Coke or not ice cream. This is where my head's at, thanks to Dunkin Donuts. The yogurt brand is called coconut cult, and it looked so flipping good, I just put it in our group chat.

38:26  
But they're making them with a lot of protein now too. I think the complaint from vegans were, when they got some of these plant based yogurts, that they just weren't getting that hit with a protein like you would do a vegan yogurt and granola in the morning, and you'd have like seven grams of protein. So that was just like, everyone was like, it's good, but it's just not giving me the nutritional value that I need. That's all changing. So people are hearing that, like the vegetarian community going, Yeah, or the vegan community. Anyhow, I would try that. There's a brand called Yoga here, y, O, G, G, U, yo, goo. Best yogurt, never mind vegan or otherwise that I've ever eaten in my life is yoga yogurt, and there is a pretty good protein content in it as well. Yeah, I'd go. I bet you they have the $29 smoothies too. You go into air one or something like that. Yeah, could I get a carrot juice? That'll be 2150 us.

39:34  
Listen everybody. We've talked about politics, we've talked about airport divorces, and I think it's time, because it is connected to divorces and perhaps airports. But there was a lovely picture of Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau hand in hand. She's looking friggin fabulous. He's looking at handsome as AF, as the kids say, and they're still together. Obviously they're still getting naked together and doing. Stuff, and I'm happy for him. I don't I think she's a little bit of a loose cannon. I mean, she's had lots of relationships and and I don't know, I hope she doesn't break his part.

40:11  
Yeah, we've tied together all of our topics in this one story, kind of so we've got divorces, we've got travel. We do have a bit of politics. I mean, he's not a prime minister anymore, but he was at one point. But yeah, they were seen celebrating her 41st birthday on Saturday night this weekend in

40:27  
Paris. So you're this, you're the same age as her, is that correct? Yeah.

40:31  
And so they were celebrating together at a cabaret show at Paris's Crazy Horse. So that's a sexy little show to go see together. So yeah, so she's 41 he's 54 he looks pretty darn good for 54 good for 54 although 54 is young, but like he still he looks refreshed. Sometimes you see a politician at the end of their terms, and they're much worse for wear. I think he seems to have reset a bit. And he had been seen together on a yacht, and I think a lot of people were really doing the like, are they, aren't they? And this was a solid confirmation that they definitely are. They are, whatever they are.

41:06  
I think Laney. Wasn't it Laney who was saying on the Marilyn Dennis show that there was something about an open relationship at first. That's what I heard her say. I don't know how she knew that, but she is the gossip queen.

41:17  
Yeah, I think there were thoughts about that, and there have been thoughts about the the, you know, open relationship of it all for Katie with Orlando, and previously, for Justin with Sophie. There's been speculation around the dating activities of all of these couples at varying points in their relationships. Not to say that any of those rumors are true, but I'm not surprised to see them coming back up around these two because they sort of are omnipresent around them.

41:46  
Have you guys ever had to have those conversations about open relationships?

41:50  
I wouldn't do that in a million years. Yeah, not for me. No, I just I wouldn't do it in a million years. I don't get it. I don't understand it. I think it's heartbreaking. I think there's, yeah, you know, everybody's different, and I have no judgment for people that do it. Let me tell you right now, I have met a few throuples in my life, and I'm just like, whatever pulls your skirt up. I think the whole point of anything in this life is to not go into things with judgment. I don't know anything about how it sets up, whatever makes you happy, whatever brings you joy. And if you're not hurting other people, if you're not, you know, I would never tell it's not for me. It's not something that I could do, but if you want to do that, and if that brings you joy, and if that makes you a better person, making your way through life, because generally, when you're easier on yourself, you're easier on other people. Good point. Period, full stop.

42:46  
Yep, all my friends who've been in open relationships, it has ended in the exact fashion that you would have anticipated today. So I've never seen firsthand it go well for people that I know. But I did attend. I failed math in grade nine, and I went to summer school and became friends with, like, a whole new group of people at summer school. And one of my summer school friends, this was so this is a long time ago. This was well before this was popular in, you know, pop culture, and was more of an open dating term on what on, you know, dating sites, etc, like, field was not a thing. Yeah, these apps were not a thing. The kink community was very different. She had two moms and a dad, and they slept in the same bed. They all lived under one roof. And I went over to her house and just thought to myself, What in the world is going on to my parents? And we're like, she has two moms and a dad, and they thought they were like, Oh, well maybe, like, you know, her parents separated, and the two moms got together, like, that's normal. And I was like, no, no, they all live in the same house. Polyamory, polyamory, thank you, or polygamy. I don't know what it is, because nobody was because I think only one set of them were legally married, and then the other person was there, and they had a blended family dynamic, so I don't

44:03  
know, but the person was fine, the kid was fine. Yeah. I mean, we both failed

44:07  
math, but, like, taking

44:10  
math skills for sure, it mess up both of our one is three. Wait,

44:15  
they were really happy. And, like, it was great. So, yeah, like, but, so I don't know how that turned out for them, but like most of my friends who've been in open relationships, like it didn't the the openness of said relationship wound up becoming a problem at one point in the relationships. And I also have friends who have been I like to call them the the guest star, and so they will, like, join an existing couple. And even for them, I feel like they've had to tap out and say, like, actually, I can't do this. Or there's been, like, just stuff so it can, it can get messy.

44:45  
I had an opportunity last week where, like, it was a joke, a joke had come up, and I said, for the record, not into that. And I was really happy that I got to put that out there, because I'm obviously in a new situation. I'm figuring it

44:57  
out. How is that new situation? Yeah.

45:00  
It's good. It's good. Like, he made a joke being like, Oh, is that your other boyfriend? Like, he hasn't talked to me about the term boyfriend, but he's making lots of cute little comments like that. The only thing I put my foot down about was I was like, you know, if we're, you know, in the bedroom doing this, you can date whoever you want right now, but you need to tell me if you're doing this with someone else, okay, yeah, and I feel fine about that. And he's like,

45:24  
yeah, yeah, I think that's health and safety. Yes, exactly.

45:27  
Yeah, proud of you. Yeah. I don't need to. I don't, I don't feel like I need to lock down. But he's also not making me feel any sort of anxiety or nerves about where we stand. I feel very comfortable. Good, yeah. Voice notes, yeah.

45:43  
I think we have some voice notes to listen to. We do. This is a sidebar. We don't listen to these. We don't hear them beforehand. We are listening to them the same time you are. So anything could happen. And it does a

45:55  
very good morning. Caitlin, Jann and Sarah, I am calling you well, recording this from Guelph, Ontario, and it is Thursday, the 16th of October. A very happy belated Thanksgiving to you and yours. My name is Nancy, by the way, in the most recent podcast, your podcast, obviously that I listened to you asked a question, something like, how do you decide what to wear in the morning? I usually start thinking about this the night before, because really, I want to go to work looking professional, confident, well, put together, but I'm a little slow and a little lazy in the morning. So typically, I leave looking, hopefully clean, definitely comfortable and a little wrinkled. I almost never pull out an iron. It's one of those chores that I really don't look forward to. I should, but I don't like most people that call in. I love your podcast, and I have a long drive to and from work. Jen, I'm really looking forward to seeing you in December in Guelph, and I hope you guys have a great rest of your week to do.

47:16  
Totally do, I think people figure out the way to say

47:21  
it, G'day, ladies, it's Liz Parsons here from New Zealand, Jan's friend right at the bottom of the planet. Jenns, I told you I'd ring one day, and I've done it. Today's the day I am currently cleaning out the Blinken motor home because ants moved in van or welcome. So I'm cleaning this place top to toe over it, but I've just listened to your latest show. What I've been doing the last three weeks is catching up on two months worth of your podcast because I was in Italy or your guys' summer, and I don't listen to podcasts. So anyway, it's great to be back, but I am playing catch up. Thank you, Jen for calling me while I was away. That was really cool. My mum passed away, and Jen, I appreciate you ringing the check in on me and see how it's doing. I really do appreciate you. Thank you, sweetheart. All right, ladies, I just wanted to drop in and say hi and thank you. The emotional intelligence that you girls have during your show, I don't know about afterwards, but during your show is so great. I know a lot of prep goes into these shows and a lot of prep, but somehow you managed to get us, within 50 minutes, laughing, rethinking the way we think about something, and other times, just bawling our eyes out, which is quite interesting when you're driving. Just a side note, but that is that is really clever, and I really appreciate it. So thank you so much. I am down here at the bottom of the world, but from all the way down here in New Zealand, sometimes on a map, sometimes not. We love you, and thank you, generals, if I don't see you at my place in Italy in June next year, maybe I'll take the long way home and come see you and Poppy, of course, and drop in very much the long way home. Nothing is close when you live at the bottom in the world. Come see me. What the heck? Do a show? Yes, do a show from New Zealand. All right, guys, we love you. Thank you so much. Ciao.

49:16  
Ciao, love you. Liz, my friend. Liz

49:19  
Parsons, how did you meet her from New Zealand? She

49:23  
and I have just been like she was in radio for years in New Zealand, and she's been up here a couple of times and stayed with me a few times here at the hacienda. But she's got two wonderful daughters and a great husband, des her husband and, yeah, her mom just passed away. I think it's been a couple months now, but Liz, you're a very good daughter. You she did so many things with her mom. When I was there, Chris and I actually went to New Zealand and we took the long way home from the Fiji cruise so that we could pop in and stay we just stayed a night there at the hotel airport, and they took us. Out for a lovely dinner, and I actually got a chance to meet her mom. So, yeah, it's, I know what it's like to lose your mom, so, but yeah, thanks for calling Liz. She's keeps threatening. It always worries me. I'm like, What the hell is she gonna say? Hello, channels. Calls me.

50:14  
Channels. Okay, here's our last one for today.

50:17  
Hi, Jen Caitlin and Sarah. It's Wendy. From finding Wendy, I'm down at downtown Toronto, and I wanted to share my favorite smell, and the one smell that I miss very much that is related to my mother. She always wore Chanel Number Five perfume. And whenever I go to the perfume section of any store, I immediately go and smell that Chanel number five to bring back some memories of my mom. I really miss her. And for everybody out there who's missing their moms, I'm sure that they can think of a typical smell that your mom used to have. Have a great day, everybody. And thanks again for your wonderful podcast. Oh, that's so nice.

51:03  
Yeah, Chanel Number five is one of the strongest smelling perfumes and the most iconic that has ever filled my head. You need to spray that in a room and walk through it about 60 seconds later to get the right amount of number five on your body. Yeah, do never, don't, ever put it directly on your body because it lingers and there's nothing for me. Like too much perfume is is tough. I love a scent like I love it when thortis Smells so

51:38  
good all the time. Oh, my God. 47 minutes. New Record.

51:41  
Oh, thank you. Thank you so much.

51:44  
I think about that though with will, like, I honestly, I will spray like a light smell for will, because I do think about the fact that I don't want him to think that I smell bad, like, if I'm gonna, and because you pick him up and carry him so much, or you look, have a cuddle and like, you don't want him to think that you smell like coffee or like an onion or something. So you're like, I want to have a nice smell. My grandmother's wore Estee Lauder, beautiful, and I like Wendy, you're right. You really do remember like with the people that you love. You remember how they smell,

52:10  
feel like my mom like smelled like amazing cooking all the time. She was always in the kitchen, Paula, shouting you out anyway. So come join us on Patreon.

52:18  
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52:42  
And coming up on holiday season, you can gift it to someone. And we have a book

52:47  
bag. So we're reading a very interesting book right now about elves and fairies having sex.

52:53  
I haven't gone to anything sexual yet, but I can tell it's coming. And I'm like, I

52:58  
haven't started it yet, but I'm gonna listen to it. I've got a couple of little road trippy things I've got. I'm gonna start it on the plane tomorrow, because I've got it downloaded, yep. And so I've got four hours to listen to it. I think it's nine and a half hours.

53:11  
I'm in chapter eight right now, and nothing sexual has happened. The one human Feyre, the main character, has talked about having relation with another person in town, but, like, we haven't been there for, like, anything exciting,

53:22  
okay, yeah, you're it's, honestly, it takes a long time. It takes, like, what's the

53:25  
book? What's the book called, sorry, a crown of A Court

53:29  
of Thorns and Roses, a

53:31  
court of thorn send roses. And it's by Sarah J Moss. Sarah J Moss, M, A, A, S. It's the very first Burke of the first series. She has got seven series that are international sellers. Most of them are four or five books long. Not kidding you, it's the first book of the first series. And she wrote this book when she was 17 years old. Oh, she was a horny toad. She was a very young woman. And this series was put out after she had become there's a lot to unpack with this first series of books. It

54:08  
takes a while to get into the fairy sex. I was surprised, because people really positioned this to me as being like, oh, it's like, smutty, and it is eventually. But I think the other books are they lead in with it. This one, I think I was something like 220 pages in before anyone disrobed in any fashion? Yeah,

54:24  
I was saying to my mom, I'm like, we're reading a fairy porn book. Why not? Anyway,

54:29  
50 Shades

54:32  
of Fae. I have a debacle. I'll get your opinion on in my new dating life. But what do you guys want to cover over there? God,

54:40  
there's just so many things that I want to talk about. Did I mention my girlfriend? Did I mention that already? No, but that's going good. We had a six month anniversary

54:51  
Hold, please. Yep, yep. And Caitlin, maybe we can talk about ozempic vulva.

54:57  
That's all I need to know. You've been listening to the Gen Arden. Podcast and show. Join us on Patreon for ozempic vulva. What a catchphrase that is. I'm going to get a t shirt. We'll see you next time. Totally Do you?

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