A Granny Panty Mystery & The Tea on 10,000 Steps

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Welcome to the Jan Arden podcast. We're taping this on a Sunday. That's how dedicated we are. Hey. Welcome everyone that was a free jingle, free every week.

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We should start calling them the jangle with Jan goal,

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the jangles. How are you guys

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good? So it's a Sunday, yeah. What are you guys up to? Normally on this? Well, I'm

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home. Caitlin's home, but Sarah, you are at your cabin. Kevin, cottage, I think is what you Ontario. Aryans call

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it. Yeah, my parents just left to drive home. It

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hasn't been going. I saw your workout on the deck yesterday, and you were trying to get it done before people were barbecuing, like watching you lift yourself up and down on a wooden deck.

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They were having, like, an annual summer barbecue, and they told me a week ago, and they're like, just so you know, if you'd like to finish what you normally do over there before people come over. So I did. It was so hot, like I was sweltering.

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It's very well. It's

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noon for you guys, we're recording it's 10am here. It is just seven degrees. The birds are shaking out there. They're knitting themselves little sweaters out of grass. I can see them out there, little sticks knitting themselves little sweaters. It's kind of a drag, because, as you know, July and August, pretty much are Canadian summer months, if you're listening to us from far off lands, much like the northern hemisphere, July, August. Is it for us anyway? What are you guys up to? What's happening? Because we're going to do this week, put in the can, and then Caitlin, you're off to where you're going to a wedding. I'm

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going to my cousin's wedding in Nova Scotia, and my husband's from Nova Scotia. So while we're there, we're going to pack on a bunch of family visits. We'll go into Halifax, will can tour around, and then the wedding is at a really wonderful winery in the Annapolis Valley of Nova Scotia called Lightfoot. I don't know. I have way too many connections to the east coast of Canada, like my husband's from Halifax. My dad's from PEI. My husband's brother and his wife live in PEI. My cousin, who's getting married at this winery in Nova Scotia is fiance is from PEI. They're getting married in Nova Scotia. I was like, I can't there's too much east coast, very east coast. Chance throwing up gang signs for

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everyone who's Yeah, but will there be a mosh pit?

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I don't know. We gotta get you know what I'm gonna do. We're gonna start blaring insensitive mid wedding, and just, I'm gonna see what I'm just gonna

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just serve a lot of wine. I don't know if you guys saw the Instagram page where we had put up a clip last week, last week's podcast, we were talking about a mission Hill gig halfway through, played insensitive and a mosh pit started with, you know, 150 200 really, like intoxicated people? Yeah, they showed up in the comments. Do

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you have them to read? Yeah? One I thought was really funny. So Allison said I was there. I was definitely mushing too unloved, not as to be a part of in my life. Here we are so joyful. The hedge woman, they think may have been Deborah from Allison's book club, so she was all up in your business all night. They said, joyfully, of course. And they're going to send out an APB if she's not at the next book club gathering.

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Oh my gosh. Well, that is hilarious that people were sure. There was a few people that said I was there too. Thank you for all the fun and joy we had the best night. That's what I want to hear, because God knows I'm still laughing about it. And I think I mentioned that as I'm leaving the stage on good mother, the pair of underpants gets thrown. Okay, well, this was the final and we are going to move on from this gig, people, I swear to God. So I'm, you know, good night, good night. People are dancing in the grass and the band is playing out, and I'm singing, good mother, we always end with that song. And this giant pair of white underpants comes sailing over the security hedge and lands by my feet on the stage. And Chris said, I thought it was a sail from a sailboat, and I that really made me laugh, right? Because, oh God, it was not a lacy thong, it wasn't a G string, it wasn't anything remotely kind of sexy. It was a giant pair of, like, period underpants that came but anyway, thank you. Forever through those. I don't know if you had prepped in advance, but it was really freaking funny anyway. So you, yeah, East Coast Wedding. You don't think you're gonna have a mosh pit, but it's gonna be a nice time. What a beautiful time of year for a wedding. That's

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the time of year to go out east too. I know we talked last week too about the increase in travel within Canada. I think we covered that on the Patreon episode. And I really have to recommend to everybody that if you haven't already had a chance to check out the Maritimes do it. Definitely do it during the summer months, but it's gorgeous, so hopefully will can put his little toes and some beach sand, and we'll eat a bunch of shellfish, and it'll be great.

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And Sarah, what are you doing? So I mean, just a regular weekend right now, I'm definitely going to stay up longer here at the cottage for the long weekend. I have two girlfriends from different like groups coming to join at the end of this week. But this week, I. Actually, like, condensed my work week. I had a full day out of the office, like midweek Wednesday, and I golfed in a golf tournament where I knew no one, a charity golf tournament. I love that. And it was just like someone from the gym was like, hey, some ladies do this if you want to join them. Here's the info. And I did. Maybe I was having FOMO from not making it to Calgary for Jan's golf tournament, which I do want to hear about. Yeah, but yeah, it was so fun, some potential, like business networking, to keep in touch about podcasting. So it was great day.

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I love hearing that. It's it is frightening doing new things, like, I'm not gonna lie, it's to put yourself out there and do stuff, especially when you're by yourself. It would have even been different if you and I had gone, because you and I would have ended up have ended up talking mostly, probably potentially, wouldn't have met people, yeah, as much as you did, because you're kind of forced to go home. I'm Sarah. I'm a podcaster and but no good for you. I don't know if I would have the balls to do it. I really don't. Would I sign up and go on a golf tournament by myself? Probably not, and

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it wasn't too far, like it was in Oakville. So it's like, you know, it was maybe like a 40 minute drive, but I enjoyed it. How did your golf tournament

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go? Sold out. We avoided the rain. It was, it was a beautiful day. I wore a sweater, but it was just cool enough up in the mountains, it's a silver tip golf course, and they always donate back the green fees to, actually, the charity called enviros. And there was 12 ladies that showed up. I think it was three teams. They all had pink tutus on. You know, people really go all out. They had designed all these hats that had bling on them. The hat that I have on right now is given to me by one of the golfers that flies out with her partner, and I think, two other women every year from Ontario, and they flew out and she said, you don't have one of these hats. These hats. I think this is an indigenous a hat. And please forgive me, because I can't remember what she told is that a bit of an eagle, yeah. And I just said, Listen, I will be wearing this hat on the podcast. You bet your bottom dollar. But it's kind of a camouflage. It's really cool hat. So thank you for that, but it was a nice dinner. We served a vegan dinner this year. What was that? I don't think half the people even knew there was a curry, like a beautiful vegetable curry. There was some kind of a, almost a stewed chili type of thing that had a whole bunch of Beyond Meat sausage in it, pita bread, a portobello Wellington stuffed with spinach and grains and nuts, and it had this gravy that went over it. I mean, it was a delicious meal. So kudos to all the chefs at silver tip. And it was nice not to serve 160 racks of pork ribs. That's a lot of animals. Do you know what I mean? I mean, when you think about

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you've not only helped animals, but everyone's health who was in attendance, what do you really think about it? Yeah,

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they just had, they had a whole plate full of side dishes. That's people always want me to talk about, like, what a veganism. What do you people do? I said, Imagine a bunch of side dishes, and you get to eat them all, all the time. Anyway, enough about that. It was really successful. I think we've raised, we've been doing it 10 years now, and we've raised $800,000 to help people in social programs. Yeah.

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And you know, for you, Jim,

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that's, well, we're not a big outfit, but, yeah, I think we'll be doing it, you know, next year again, and hopefully Caitlin and you we can make a team. Sarah, we just need one more person, me,

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Kyle, to come because he's the rigger. He's a real golfer, like he's quite

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okay, then we get but we're not. We're not no like, as in,

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like an addict, like he like gets, he's like, he measures the success of a vacation by how many drowns he's managed to play.

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Okay, well, now that I know what everyone's basically doing, Caitlin, you have so many great stories that you bring us every week, and I do want to give you a moment, but you know what I do? I pontificate, and we fucking never get to them. I'm always looking at the notes afterwards, and I'm like, Oh God, I wish we could have talked about that. Oh, I was talking about Patreon, but it doesn't go to everybody, right? Patreon, we've got like, 1000 over 1000 members on Patreon now. It's so exciting. So Caitlin, go. I want to hear about this tea app, and I also want to hear about this goddamn 10,000 step thing that we've been doing for years and years now. Oh, I got to go fucking walk around the refrigerator, because I need another 11 steps. I'm like, God, stop it. Everyone tell me about all of this stuff.

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I knew the 10,000 I mean, so this will be a tease, because I knew the 10,000 steps thing was a lie. I always knew it. I was like, there's no How do they know this? So just to, you know, we'll get to there eventually. But the tea app is something you might have heard and t, as in T, E, A, like, that's the way it's spelled. And it's kind of a nod to, like, the Urban Dictionary type saying, of like, what's the T spell? The T, which is like, give me the gossip. The design for this was based upon an experience that one man had where his mom was catfished on a dating site. And this continually happens. You hear about, you know, love scams happening all the time. But also this reminded me of a close friend of mine who recently discovered that a guy she had been dating for months had another girlfriend. And then Sarah, on the podcast, you pointed out that there was a Facebook group called, Are we dating the same guy? Yeah. And so the tea app is a whisper network for. Women only, female only users, and it's designed to let them anonymously, ask or warn each other about men they've encountered, whether that be you know, someone that catfished them, or a dating profile or anything, or somebody who seemed unsafe, somebody who was cheating, maybe they had a wife, all that stuff. It's just creating a network and a framework for women to do what they've already done for ages, which is try to warn each other about bad actors. Now guess who gets all flustered over this? The in cells and men's rights activist corners of the internet. They are ticked. They immediately go to a place of like, everyone's gonna all these women are gonna talk about how small my penis is. Like, literally, that's exactly what happened. They were like, I don't want like, I don't want them to be able to gossip about me. They don't think about it in the context of real serious personal safety, like what a statistical risk men and romantic partners are to women. So I knew when this app became number one in the lifestyle section of the app store last week, and all the Redditors and all the freaks start coming out and saying, This is terrible. It should terrible. It should be taken down. It's sexist that this, something bad was going to happen. And sure enough, now it's been confirmed. The company behind the app confirmed that it had been hacked, saying that 1000s of images, including selfies, were leaked online. They've, you know, they've tried to mitigate the fallout of this using cybersecurity experts. They're saying they're working around the clock to secure their systems, but they said it was four chan users. And if you aren't familiar with the vernacular of the internet, four Chan is a kind of dark corner of the internet where, I'm going to be honest, like basement dwellers frequently, sort of lurk, and I don't know what that's like a messaging board. It's like a, you know, kind of like a messaging board system. And a four chan users discovered an exposed database that allowed anyone to access the material from this app, and it was because these guys were pissed off that women were talking about them and they didn't like it. They viewed it as gossip. They didn't view it as safety, and they didn't realize that a guy developed this because his mom got catfished.

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I think men find women far more interesting than women find men. 1% I mean the fact that they're worried about for anyone talking about penis size, you know, no guys, we're actually not focused on your wieners. We're actually focused on the fact that maybe you were a guy that didn't pay a bill or didn't drop you off where you're supposed to. Was a terrible conversationalist. Was concentrating on yourself the whole night. And then I, I my, you know, whatever, I think it's more of you know, does this guy? Is he dating nine of us at the same time? It's like you said, Caitlin, and it's pretty tough to watch your mom or your dad, like, especially if they're widowed, have been single for a while, and they're just going back out into the dating thing to meet some dorkle ball that is taking advantage of them.

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So a girlfriend of mine, I've never told this story on the podcast, but, like, I'm not gonna mention her name, and she used to live in my neighborhood, and, you know, we don't see each other as much anymore because she doesn't live here anymore. She says, Hey, I'm coming to the neighborhood. I might need some help with something. I'm like, Okay, so we're out walking Stevie, and she goes, Yeah, I'm trying to catch this guy, because I think that he's living with the woman that he was previously married to, still, and he's been lying about all these things. And so I'm trying to, like, see if I can somehow find out if there's someone else on the mortgage, like to get into the building, or whatever. So her and her friend had developed this entire plan where they were acting like some sort of delivery service. I don't remember if it was Uber Eats or whatever. They were trying to use, like another name that they had suspected to see if they would get let up. So sure enough, she does find out that she's still on the mortgage, like, he still lives with his ex, and she's like, if you're not with her and you're figuring that out, you could have just told me that. Like, yeah, Toronto rent. Let me just say I've lived with an ex boyfriend for six months. It's hard. Okay,

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divorced people are living in the basement in the upper floor, because they literally they're apart, but they can't afford to live apart. Yeah, go

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ahead. You know, for six months she ends up dating this person who has never mentioned that he's been married before and that, you know, like, has everything's based on a lie. You

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know, it's not like women don't ever behave badly. I mean, I think if men wanted to go out and create an app for this, like, have at it if you encounter someone who, you know, knowingly deceives you, or takes money from you, or something like that. I'm not saying women are guiltless, but I just think that they're missing the piece where we are statistically not likely to kill you, and you guys can't say the same thing, like you're a real risk to women's safety. So if somebody's been abusive, if there's that, like, there's a whole different layer of it. And then to out all the women who've been using this app, and then that's a risk to all of their safety. You just proved our point. You've just proved everyone's point that you're not safe.

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Female Uber drivers just launched too. Did you have you noticed that I did see that? Did

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Lyft not offer you can hit a female driver if you want, on Lyft? That was a couple of years ago. Yeah? Now Uber

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is doing it too. Yeah.

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And then the follow my ride, share my trip, right where you can see, in real time, where the blue.is going on the trip. And I've even actually been served a notification that asks me if I'm okay. When in the middle of Toronto construction, my driver took a route that seemed weird to Uber.

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They've have added a lot of safety features, for sure, like, I think they're doing. I mean, everyone's aware of this, so I just, I find it amusing that there's a large group of men who think that there shouldn't be an app for women to say, like, Hey, by the way, this person had a secret family. This is his name. If he's going by this then, like, maybe

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stay away from him. What'd your friend think of the tea app? Is she on it? No,

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she's not on it. She, like, loved it. And in our group chat, all my girlfriends were like, this app is genius. I

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think women are banding together, and really good guys that are working or that are allies. You know, it's the same thing. There's a lot of men that are certainly allies towards women in the women's movement, and feminists as there is allies to misogyny that are female, right? We see that on both sides of the fence. So we're not going to sit here and swing the bat. There are horrible people of all genders, and there are people whose character is very questionable. But I think the fact that these things are starting to become apps that, like you said, Facebook pages that are kind of outing people that are shysters. I don't know what any of this has to do with my girlfriend, but here we are again.

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Here we are again, saying that,

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here we are again saying this thing,

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10,000 steps. Here we are.

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We don't need them. We don't need 10,000 steps. I knew we So, what

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do we need? Then? Are you saying that 10,000 is too many? 10,000 to me, I always feel like I've put in a good day. Sorry. I'm still kind of buying into that. I certainly can feel it when I've done 22,000 steps. I'm like, Holy shit, we did a lot of walking today. Yeah, so explain. And who's saying this?

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I think that they're saying that it's not like doing 10,000 steps is, quote, unquote bad. It's just that the guideline came from a marketing campaign. It was actually a 1960s marketing campaign in Japan, 1960s I was gonna say, yeah. So this new study was published in The Lancet, which is like a medical journal, and so they said that the real number to target could be much lower than 10,000 you know, they said you've got 57 different studies. They analyze over 160,000 adults and 50 1000 adults, if they put in the scientific work, and they said, Look, 7000 steps a day will reduce risk of lots of things like cardiovascular diseases, cancer, type two diabetes, dementia, falls, all those things. If you get if you hit 7000 so because some people, maybe they feel defeated when they don't like close the ring on their fitness, if you use the fitness thing, or if they don't get 10,000 steps, if you get 7000 it's pretty good. They said you can see a marked improvement in your health at 2000 steps a day. So sort of like this whole chasing a certain number. I think the idea that they wanted to put out was that you don't need to focus on the number so much, just that any activity is good activity. Obviously, more of it is going to be better for you. But if you are at a place where you're finding it hard to do anything, 7000 is just as good as 10 and two, 2000 is still you're going to see a massive improvement in your health.

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So any kind of movement, and people are talking about that a lot, my watch, I wear an Apple Watch. It prompts me to stand up, like if I've been working at my desk or writing, it says time to stand. And you know what? I always take the prompt I finish little bits and bats what I'm doing. And I like it when my watch says Good for you. You did it. You stood. We got to a point in life where you know this thing under your watch is going good for you. You stood up now to me, Well, just the fact that we have to be prompted to stand just reminds me of how you know how we are living our lives. And trust me, I think about how bizarre it is to be sitting long enough that, yeah, something has to tell me to stand up well. And you think

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about like how much has just been it's just because it's a byproduct of how our work has changed. So back in the day, I bet if there was a, you know, an Apple Watch, it would have told you to sit down. It was like you're working yourself to death. And now it's the reverse, because it's, it's like you're not going to tire yourself out in the field. Sit

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down for 44 hours, take

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a seat. Moses, now it's like you have to actually stand up, because we're so sedentary based on our work. But I like it. Janet, when I used to work on the morning show on chump Marilyn and I noticed that we were like, is everything okay with Jamar? Because he used to just launch himself up out of his seat, sort of unannounced, and would provide zero context for it. And I finally was like, What are you doing? Like, is your foot falling asleep? Like, what's going on? He's like, No, my Apple Watch is telling me I have to stand up because we would just sit for so long. And so none of us knew. So we have a co worker who just launches out of their desk chair sporadically. That's what's

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happening. Well,

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Cynthia Lloyd. Mother. And I'm telling you, I talked to Cynthia a couple of times a week. We touch base. Sometimes it's a five minute call when she's walking to this is it the GO train? Yeah, from work and and sometimes she's got a little bit of leisure time, and we'll talk for like, 35 minutes and hear everything. I have never, ever had a conversation with her, whether it's the short version or the long version, where she hasn't talked about her mother wanting to get in her 10,000 steps. Oh, she somehow gets it in there. But her mom is, I think she's 80. I'm gonna say 81 and if I've got that wrong, Cynthia, God, please forgive me. But her parents are so active. But her mother walks like you talk about Moses. This woman could lead the people out of Egypt like no problem. She could walk for 100 miles without stopping. And it does make such a big difference with mental health and just how you remember things and but I think it's so impressive. I'm gonna stick, I don't know, to all our listeners out there, you guys, do you? I'm gonna stick to the 10,000 so I'm not going to sway from that. But like Caitlin said, if you do 2000 it's better than zero. If you do 1000 it's better than zero. Move a little bit, stretch a little bit. Keep keep motivated. As you know, winter it gets harder to do stuff like

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that. And with women's health, like there's all the phases, one of the most interesting things about women's health to me is, like, the different phases of your your cycle, yeah, how? There's like, proven times that you need different supplementation and nutrition. There's proven times where you should be doing active rest instead of, like, a hit workout. That's so interesting, too. And you have to listen to, like, where your body's at

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over where, what would you recommend? Where people start with that. Sarah like not that we've been preparing for this, but we are not experts on this. But is there a website where women could go? I suppose Google or or any of those search said Bing it, for God's sakes, go on to some kind of search, I

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would say, Bing it, Bing Bong. Okay. Here's the basics. Okay. Follicular phase, ovulation, luteal phase, and menstruation. So menstruation days one through seven, that's Take it easy. This is why they say, like once you're going into menopause, like your body can redirect all this energy used to use for this to other things, and then luteal phase. So that's when your hormone levels drop, and the cycle kind of starts again. So you're at your like, I would say, your lowest energy phase, while you're waiting to shed and that is actually true for me. I get the worst headache and the worst energy right before my period starts, aka, right now.

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Yeah, I am fighting for my life for the first two days of my cycle, and leading up to that, I've been particularly low energy. And I actually had a trainer who was a male who pointed this out to me at first, and he was the one who was like, I think I was complaining about something. And he's like, you know, married with a kid, so he knows stuff. And yeah, oh yeah, where are you at in your cycle? I was like, Excuse me, but like, it does

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allies of women, like a guy that goes and buys his wife pads and tampons and gets her my doll and gets her and rubs her back the guys that are paying attention. That's pretty sweet, and I'm glad, let's be honest, it is. But what happened to listen to your body, so I'm over it. You girls are 20 years younger than I am, but you have no idea how what you're in for on the other side of that fence, like it really changes up again. I think your energy still fluctuates. So what I do, I do depend on technology. Once again, we started out talking about the tea app and technology and women, and now we're kind of heading into this. But my aura ring, which I love, that tracks sleep and a whole bunch of other things, I just really rely on it to tell me if I've had enough rest, and it will literally caution me, you look recovered today, get out there. Kick Ass. Have a good workout. You can you can really try and today, but it also, but it also tells me you had a shit sleep. Your heart rate was elevated, and your temperatures a little elevated, which means I do take it easy, and I feel it so technology can be your friend,

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and it confirms things you already feel, but perhaps you might dismiss because you're like,

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Oh, she's right at Caitlin. We do because you have to write you kind

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of like you're it's ingrained in you to just sort of push through and walk it off. But if you have technology to say, well, actually you do have an elevated body temperature, your HRV is crap. Like, you didn't sleep well last night. You might be getting sick. And there are apps that monitor your cycle as well. Like, there's one called flow. Like, I even think the Apple Health app does

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it, or a ring does it too. I cannot say enough about this ring. I

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just asked Dr chat GPT about this, because this is, I know where you are going, but I didn't know it off the top of my head. But like, when your energy is the lowest, menstrual phase, what Caitlyn and I were just talking about, that's where it's, like, anti inflammatory foods, like berries, ginger, salmon, turmeric might be really good. Low intensity workout, yoga, walking, stretching, vodka, when you want to, like, build muscle and, like, really. Go to town with a workout. That's the next phase. The second week. It says, like, try new workouts. Your brain is sharp and adaptable. You could do longer runs. You could do spin classes. Okay? Ovulation, peak performance window too. So if you're like competing in something, sprinting, lifting heavy and then lifting children. Luteal phase, the last one. It says smaller frequent meals may ease bloating and stabilize your blood sugar. So that's interesting. Moderate strength workouts, lower reps or weights, if your energy is dipping, gentle yoga, swimming, walking. So it's just interesting. I've been, like, very into this lately. I'm working on onboarding a new podcast called phase two, phase on the network for the fall. She specializes in women's health, PCOS, and she's an ND, so all of this is so interesting. Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it really does matter. So don't worry about your 10,000 steps, and really don't worry about them in your luteal phase, because, yes, move on from that. Just join me in watching. Hey, you.

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This may not mean anything to anyone, but for me, I do trust my body. I trust my moods. Like, sometimes, if I'm feeling a little bit down, that's when I really want to get moving, like, when I actually just want to sit there and be like, I'm just gonna eat something or have another that's when I want to move and I always feel better. And Rosie O'Donnell, who we had on a few weeks ago, we asked her about, you know, what do you do? You know, to feel better and to motivate yourself. Because she suffered with depression so much over the years, and she takes her medication like she does it. She never misses

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that. What I tell everyone, and what I really believe in, is you have to shower every day, you have to put on clean clothes, brush your teeth, even if it feels like an Olympic event, and you have to get out in the sun and move your body. And I don't care if it's the middle of winter, in the middle of winter, I used to wrap myself in down blankets and parkas and lay on my back porch with the sun getting on my face. The sun is nature's Prozac, and it's very, very valuable, I think, to our our mental health. So whenever anyone says to me, I'm feeling down, I'm feeling I'm like, okay, the top three, right? Shower, brush your teeth, put on clean clothes, get out in the sun and move your body, yeah, and those are the essential things that I do a real commitment to the day. And

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I love that. When she said, brush your teeth, she wasn't kidding around, she wasn't being flippant or sarcastic. She was like, get your goddamn toothbrush out, put some toothpaste on it and brush your teeth like it just will invigorate you.

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Yeah, those incremental things that you do, it's like, you build success. You don't just start at the top. You've got to, like, work your way there. Yeah,

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I just think you got to keep moving. Are we all morning workout, people, I feel like we are, I am, if I leave it to the afternoon, but I will, you know, I've got that walk pad, right? Yes, it's, it's pretty inexpensive. You can pick them up sometimes on Amazon or, you know, for a couple 100 bucks, they go on sale. It sits beside my couch. It can slide under the couch. It's really thin. It's maybe four inches, plugs into the wall, no railings or anything. This isn't, this isn't a running pad. This is a walking pad. And I'll do that when I'm working. I step on it, put it on for 1520, minutes, and I walk sometimes. I'll do that three times in an afternoon.

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The latest is noon. There are some Pilates classes I really like that are at 12, 1215, and I can do it then. And I do find that it helps me then. It helps with my mental focus in the afternoon. And my first actual summer job was at the Toronto Star, and all the department that I worked in was the photo Research Department, entirely women, all the coolest women I've ever met. And back then, the Toronto Star had a gym, and it was subsidized by the company, and they brought in a yoga instructor to come in and do yoga classes at lunch, and they took a deduction out of your pay. It was something incredibly affordable, like $5 a week or something to that effect. And the whole department of women would very frequently go to a yoga class at lunch. And I felt like we walked taller. You felt more calm and focused. It was like you didn't need that 2pm coffee that everyone else did because you had gone and worked out a little bit or done, just like, some stretching at lunch. So yeah, movement. Movement really helps, and it does really help your brain. It makes me feel like it's clearing the clutter out of my

29:28  
brain. I totally feel that, like I like having a clear mind for even podcasting, like, if I've gone to the gym first, like, I don't know about you guys, but that's an hour where I'm not looking at my phone, and it helps, like, set the day up so like, you can think about what you want to accomplish in your day with accomplish in your day without your phone in

29:44  
your face. Yeah, it is, it's, it's an I'm sometimes shocked at how much I've used my phone on some days. Normally, a normal day for me is about four hours and 20 minutes, and that bugs me. That still really bugs me. And yes, some of it's news. Yeah. Some of it's me writing emails, but about an hour of it, I'm gonna say an hour and 15 minutes. Is social media. Is that? Is that too much like, am I? Where am I at with that? Because it would during covid I was like, you've been on your phone for nine hours and 11 minutes. I'm like, it's every morning I've been awake. I've been on my phone the entire time. That's

30:20  
everybody though. I mean, during covid lockdowns, I was playing Animal Crossing, for Christ's sake, like I really went I was like, help me. Every single red flag went up, but I think that's normal. And also, Jen to remember, like you're a public figure. So, and I think that's the case for anyone that works in media. Social media is a component of your work, and it's about, you know,

30:40  
and you have to be doing with that hour, I guess. But like, you

30:43  
have an actual following, and you post about important stuff on your on your posts, and you get great engagement. Like, I don't know, I think there's a bit of a caveat there.

30:51  
My daily average is three hours, 48 minutes, and it's down 56% probably

30:56  
because of cottage season. Where do I find that?

31:00  
Well, I'm still over you. I'm still above you at four hours and 15 minutes,

31:05  
search on your phone screen time. But it does tell me my most used apps, guys. I don't know if we'll have time for today. Maybe it's for Patreon, but I do want to weigh in on the in just like that, which is the Sarah Jessica Parker.

31:18  
I've never even watched just like that. So I have no idea.

31:23  
Okay, guys, my daily average is two hours, two hours, 28 minutes.

31:26  
Damn it good. We should have children. That's why we need a child. Jen,

31:30  
we need a

31:32  
child. But that's down 62% from last week. So, like, last week I was home way more because will was super sick, and I think, yeah, both he and I were like, just kind of screening it up. So

31:43  
I have work to do. I have serious goddamn work to do. Because four hours in a day, like, when I think about that, it makes my heart spin out, like it just what

31:54  
it tells me, my most used app is messages. Yeah, so

31:57  
messages, so you're you're texting,

31:59  
yes. So that's like, Hey guys, see you in two hours, link or canceling on me, yeah. And Spotify, like listening to stuff, yeah. And then yeah, because I stayed up late watching in just like that. It's telling me that I was using the crave app, which I'm canceling immediately.

32:17  
So we've got a few minutes so you can talk about in just like that.

32:20  
Have you watched it? No,

32:22  
yes, because I interviewed, I interviewed Sarita Choudary. She plays SEMA on Oh, she's so beautiful. So she's the, she's the saving grace of the whole dang show. And she, I interviewed her for s magazine. We had a wonderful talk. She was walking through New York. It was the most and just like that interview ever. And she's great. But I did say to her, you know, I feel like you are the home run of the entire show, because this show, I think people are hate watching it. I mean, I kind of am at this point.

32:51  
I am too like, okay, so I love Sex and the City, let me just say so, my interest in it comes from that, like, you know, nostalgic feeling of watching the old show and loving the characters. You know, what? The first two seasons, I don't think I even finished. I was like, disappointed, but like, it's just like a thing I feel like I have to do because I love the characters so Carrie and Aiden. Without giving it away, it's just like I feel unempowered. Yeah, that's the word I'm gonna use. I'm like, You are being walked all over.

33:19  
Carrie has never been of the four of them, the most empowered woman. I would say she does typically engage in the most problematic dating behaviors. I think she gives away a lot of her power to men, and I daresay she may even have like a little bit of a power, like kink happening there. But I feel like we lost Kim Cattrall, his character, Samantha, and I found Samantha to be one of the most empowered women on the show. I think the loss of her, I don't know that they necessarily really figured a workaround for that.

33:48  
See, my I think, was supposed to be the step in character to take care of the Kim Cattrall sort of vibe. But anyway, it's just this woman, you know now, like this is how I feel about this last season. It's this woman putting up with such shit, where you should be asking yourself, like, why are you be well, letting yourself be treated this way? That's how I'm going to sum it up. And it's, it's disgruntling.

34:09  
I also just selfishly, the fashion has always been, like, a really cool part of that show, and it was a real, like, just groundbreaking in that way. And they just, they they're dressed and Carrie up like a, I don't know, like a magician or something. Like, she's just like, she's very, like, she's very, looks like a wizard for God, she's like, Linda the Good Witch. Like, she's got these, like, big, poofy skirts. And I was like, Can we get a crop top on Carrie? Like, Sarah Jessica Parker's smoking hot still. And they just, they don't ever put her in like, as,

34:39  
like, Would it kill you to take like, why are you guys laughing at that?

34:42  
She's, she's damn near wearing a bonnet.

34:44  
Sarah, Jessica Parker, shares the name with me. She was on call her daddy, and she was talking about how she put it in her contract that anything she uses for the show, she gets to keep wardrobe.

34:56  
Well, I don't know now she's, they have her in like. Weird hats and like, bonnets and like, a big skirt, and I'm like, Okay, I just I want, like, I want aspirational outfits on them. Sometimes I know they're older, but like, they're very they're very cool. And the whole point of this is supposed to be, like, cool. But I did read an interview with some of the writers, and they were talking about the writing process, and they were with also the show creator, Michael Patrick King, and they were saying that this show is never gonna give anyone what they want. They were like, that's never what we're gonna do on the show. We're not gonna give anyone what they want. And I was like, never, you're never gonna give anyone what they want. Like, Never, not even one character, because it's true, they haven't done that

35:35  
so far. I was just gonna say it's a shame. Like, I mean, with Rosie, we had an amazing talk, which is why we didn't really get a chance to chat about her little cameo at the beginning of the season, which was so funny. They're like, this is, you know, if there's anything to watch the season for, it's to see Rosie playing a virgin nun. That's pretty funny. No, I love that. I was gonna say

35:55  
a virgin nun. Aren't all nuns virgin? Well,

36:01  
not forever. We had a voice note from a nun, yeah, yeah, a former nun. She quit and got together. She was like, I reconnected with an with an old friend. Lo and behold, Barry's the lead. It was a priest. They both left the cloth or whatever and started.

36:18  
They ripped the cloth. Is what they did. They ripped that cloth in half and they ripped their underpants off.

36:23  
Yeah, maybe we'll get a voice note from a nun this week.

36:28  
Do we have any voice notes from other nuns, other virgin nuns? What do we got?

36:33  
Let's see what we got today. Here

36:34  
we go. Hey, Caitlin, Sarah, Jan, Sheila groves, here from BC, I'm sending a voice note this time, because I understand the assignment. Where do we begin to unpack the last weeks of this roller coaster ride? Thank you, Jan, so much happiness in your eyes and your smile and your voice. Such a glow up only comes when things feel absolutely right, only the best of everything for every moment together with sort of Thank you, Sheila. I was also just reading that you're already engaged. That has to be. That is not true. World record time, even for women, yeah, that is not true. I loved your comment, though, that we're engaged in having a really great time. Perfect comeback. Jan, your comments on death and living long enough. I mean, I completely understand them now that we know who your mystery blankety blank is, but don't even think it or speak it into the universe. If you're truly worried, just get your pacemaker battery replaced. I can say that because I have one as well. I do

37:51  
not have a pacemaker, but I'm just checking

37:53  
in today to say that I hope people send only positive, supportive and loving comments your way. Also, I want to remind everybody that the miracle of finding true love in life is a remarkable gift,

38:10  
a gift that should never draw criticism or hate. There is no language in the universe that condemns love. Vitriol is a human condition. Don't start it. Don't support it. Don't engage

38:26  
here, here. Thank you, Sheila, appreciate it. I love not engaged.

38:30  
I love that she gave you a pacemaker, and I don't have a pacemaker.

38:35  
That's okay, but in her defense, many, many years ago, I got a pacemaker when I was 20, and I had it for 17 years. We'll talk about that another time. And then I got and then I got it removed when I was 37 so that she might have read an old article. Okay, we don't listen to these, by the way.

38:50  
And I live in Milton, Ontario. I was asleep to your latest podcast, and you mentioned about cursive writing. And I'm a teacher in Ontario, and in the latest language curriculum, in 2023 they actually brought curse of back, starting in grade three. And my students absolutely love it. We teach like the form of the letters. The purpose, and it's definitely for all of them, even those who have problems with printing. Cursive is amazing for them, and they all really enjoy it. And it's actually funny, because a lot of the student teachers who we have, who are in their early 20s, have to learn too, because Dan's right, for a long time, Ontario students didn't learn it in schools. Anyway. I love your podcast, and I listen to it religiously every Saturday morning. Take

39:47  
care. Bye. Thank you, Leslie, we appreciate that so much. Get your cursive out, folks. There is nothing sexier or funner or more satisfying or brings more joy than receiving a note, a handwritten note. From somebody. I mean, that's why I still like getting cards. I like getting birthday cards or Christmas cards because people write down something. Do not fucking send me electronic cards. I mean, that do not send me a Bing Bong, a hanging or whatever those are. Listen to you an E card. Don't want it. I don't care. Don't send it to me. Sorry. I'm bitter. Okay, one more couldn't

40:23  
tell Hello, Jen. This is Sarah's dad, and I wanted to kick start the voice notes. First of all, congratulations on your new found love and relationship with authorities, whom I've had the pleasure of meeting, and couldn't agree more that she seems a wonderful person. We do very much enjoy the podcast, although I must admit that I do hear it several times before it's actually issued. One question I would have for you is what song you would pick to represent ask Jan, you're now having Matt toward us as the song down the road that you will remember time and time again as being very special to you. Oh,

41:12  
my God, I'm going to pick Holy Moses only because when we were first kind of dating dating, I put my camera on and I sang Holy Moses to her. I put on a ball cap, and I got my guitar, and I thought, I'm going to sing her a song. And I sang her Holy Moses. She knew nothing about my music, nothing about what I did. And I thought, what can I sing that's not too saccharine or like, Oh, I love you, but it's not a love song at all. And she was like, marry me. She was it was not a love song at all, but she really liked it. She really liked the song. And apparently she played the video clip to her mother while they were in Sweden. She said, I want to play you this. Jan sent to me, and I did. I looked I looked very much like I look now. In fact, I think I had this fucking shirt on. And yeah, so Holy Moses, but thank you for asking. But if I was to like, think of a song that I wrote that's really about that kind of love. It's called thing for you, listen to it. It's got a great groove. And it's like, about all the things you like about a person. And it's just like that you when, when someone knows you so well. It's such a such a wonderful feeling to let someone know you so thing for you, final answer, thank you. Sarah's Dad, that's so sweet. That's our show for today. And come with us on Patreon. I don't know what we're going to be talking about. We're going to we're going to think of something. I have a few things up my sleeve that I would like to spit spreck and say Deutsche boat that I want to get your take on. And I don't know what sprechens of Deutsch means? I think it means speaking German. So I'm just going to put that out there. Okay. Well, listen, Sarah Caitlin, enjoy wherever you're going this week. Enjoy your wedding. We will talk to you when you get back on the other side, Sarah, you're going to be in cottage country. Just keep keep fit, and make sure your your circuit, your circadian cycle, or your menstrual cycle, is is aligned with your fitness activities. That's all I'm going to say. Keep it. Have fun. Then you're too young. You're just too young. Okay, we'll see you next time. Patreon, five bucks a month, $7 a month to join the book bag. We're reading intermezzo. There's still time to listen to that book. You can read it. You can do whatever. You don't have to be finished the book to come and join the book bag. We're going to tell you in the next couple of weeks of when we're going to do our intermezzo book bag, Zoom call. Yeah, we're going to wait, because everyone's out there getting married, they're on jet skis, they're, you know, they're doing stuff. And so we're just going to wait till everyone's had a chance to read the book. And and then we're going to announce another book we haven't Whose turn is it? Is it Sarah's turn?

43:47  
But I think I told you that I would, I would switch rotation with you because you were excited about a book.

43:52  
Well, I don't want to take your turn with you. I don't know uncle, I don't want to take it with Caitlin. That's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Don't blow my pacemaker up. For God's sakes. I've got an engagement, you know, to I've got a wedding to plan. Please give me a break. So yeah, $7 for the book bag, and you just it's really fun to do the video calls. And we have a lot of people that join. Some people participate. Some people don't, but it's a nice hour long conversation that everyone really enjoys. And getting the books, and we have little gift cards that we give out from Indigo and and then we just have the regular Patreon that really just helps these bitches put this show together week after week. That's what we're doing. And content costs money to put it together. And we've been doing this god five years now we're well into our fifth year, and we will also, you know, at some point, be doing live events, and we're going to announce all that. So anyway, having said all that, thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on the Jan Arden podcast with Caitlin green Sarah Burke, truly do you.

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